Huggers

edited for my own stupidity

Is it Clint again?

I don't think it's about money. He gave me a lot of his time and I didnt spend any money and he was lovely to me.

surely this guy was breaking the law by having a dog off lead in the street and could be done for that?

I heard how rude he was from others but he was incredibly nice to me, ordered samples from design guild for me to take away, and then after loads of dithering when I told him I had to put it all on hold because uphosterers said my chairs weren't worth it, he was totally unphased and OK about it. How peculiar.

Gosh, doesnt this make things a lot safer for us lot in Peckham?

any possibility it could have been a firework?

You never know Fuzzyboots, this may turn out to be a life changing wake-up call for the guy, his near death 'rock bottom'from which he can start to recover.

I don't know Lorraine, but they have got courses on offer on the wanted section of the forum so maybe there is an email address there you can contact. the wildlife centre itself looks perfect for parties but whether they are allowed I dont know.

I don't know Lorraine, but they have got courses on offer on the wanted section of the forum so maybe there is an email address there you can contact. the wildlife centre itself looks perfect for parties but whether they are allowed I dont know.

seanmow, you could have been suffering from 'night terrors' a genuine brain/body/sleep phenomenem that causes physical paralysis while the mind is not quite asleep. Its horrible, Ive had it a few times. Google it and see if it seems familiar.

yes and it's lovely! when mine were little we spent many a happy afternoon there. Also in the hols they often do activities.

Don't forget you new Bellenden folks that we have the wonderful wildlife garden centre between Ondine and Oglander road, lovely for family picnics, little walks and wanders, sandpit too.

Ive got this brilliant thing called a Clifford. Hard to describe but its quite big and shaped like a large bolster but with a head bit on it and it's covered in a wierd carpet like texture- I think its called fur, it stands on leg-things and moves about a bit. It makes a noise out of its head when anything happens at the front door and seems to do the trick.

Andreas (opp east dulwich deli) do some organic beer and the Frog On the Green Nunhead deli does a lovely selection of interesting beer at normal prices. Also in Bellenden Road there is the cave of spirits which does Whitstable beer and those Pullman beers from Suffolk. Luckily I live in the middle of this Beermuda triangle.

Domitianus, Jo lives in Dulwich and it is quite possible she reads this forum so I think that is a really insulting and personal remark. If I were her I would immediately decide not to help out with the campaign even if it was one nasty remark on the thread.

I think also cats should be given greater legal protection. Maybe that would close this loophole. If you run over a dog in your car you are obliged by law to report it, but not a cat. As Ive said before on the other dog thread, dogs off leads on the street are a menace, not just to traffic and people, but to dogs on leads who feel very vulnerable when rushed by them. Last night I saw dog (bull terrier) off lead in street, it went into road, owner just started hitting it. Not a very good way to train a dog to walk next to you.

well done Don Quixote. Now will you sort out the middle east.

On EDF recommendation Saw true blood for first time last night and loved it and am loving Criminal Justic too .Isnt life great when the telly is good?

..or the tractor that is definitely over park speed limit and zooms about practically doing handbrake turns.

ditto

Steve Ive no idea what I would do. Did this happen to you in Peckham Rye? That is terrifying. Are there attacks like this going on in Peckham Rye that would warrant these muzzles and enclosures on normal dog walking people? are dogs attacking human beings on a regular basis? Its a pretty regular dog walking crowd in PRP and we tend to keep an eye out for eachother and keep an ear to the grapevine. I thought original posters were complaining about being rushed by disobedient dogs rather than attacked by vicious ones .Hence my advice to ignore if you are phobic, so as not to increase interest and interaction . No collar no owner? that is illegal straight away, so would such a dog ever be muzzled or 'walked in an enclosure'? Dogs this dangerous have no business being in a park at all, and no muzzle or enclosure is going to make them safe. Dogs scare me when they are off the lead in the residential streets- off lead dogs in the streets are illegal and yet I see guys cycling along with dogs running on the pavement. Not only intimidating and illegal, but dangerous re possible RTA. I expect to be able to walk my dog on a lead down the street without being harrassed by an off lead dog- the most likely scenario for a fight or for me to get bitten edited to add: the law already requires the muzzling and neutering of all pit bull type or dangerous breed dogs-and of course for all dogs to wear a collar.

well Sean, I don't think she was making a judgement,-and I certainly I understand your point about people not being able to do that when they are in a state of terror. she was acting on her phobia but then her noise and flapping actions in reaction to her hysteria to a dog were the equivalent of calling it to her. To be fair, I think she was probably mentally ill. I had to reassure her and call the dog (who was mesmerised), both of which were very difficult under the unslaught of her shopping and shouting. I suppose the equivalent would be if I saw a group of youths in the distance and started to scream and They came over to see what was going on. Which made me scream more. I am making an assumption about a group of youths and my reaction - which brings them over- then reinforces my assumption. Unfair assumption, but genuine terror .(this is hypothetical, I dont actually do this) The best thing to do if you are scared of dogs is to ignore them, which of course is the hardest thing to do if you are feeling scared. I realized that my dog could get freaked out by freaked out people and needed to get used to the strangeness of others and ignore other people, whatever they were doing...and most importantly to come back to me on command. Edited to add- I'm not the only one to have had school children coming up to my dog when I am walking him on the lead in the street and screaming in his face 'aaagh a dog'. Dog phobia being passed from parent to child. And if it was a dodgy dog- would that be the most sensible thing to do? Eventually it must become a self fulfilling prophecy if you scream in the face of enough dogs ...

Dogs have been domesticated for millenia because of their affinity with human beings and are not instinctively hostile like say lions, nor regard us as prey, roaming round parks looking for victims. We do not have wild packs like you would find in India- which are of course very scarey and unpredictable. Not for nothing is the dog known as Man's Best Friend. Even the demonised staffie is sometimes called the 'nanny dog ' because of its protectiveness towards children. Cliche I know, but bad dogs are the result of bad- or stupid negligent people The likeliest victims of such dogs are their own owners and owners children or neighbours, and the likeliest venues are their own homes as we so often read about in the paper, or ....those protecting their own dogs. in the park are pointers to good dog husbandry . Has the dog got a Collar, is it with someone, is the owner paying attention. The very fact the dog is being taken for a walk is a sign that it is cared for and has a structured life. I once threw a ball for my dog that landed at least twenty feet from a woman who then, as the dog collected his ball, began to scream and shout at him, catching his attention so that he went over to have a look. She then threw all her shopping at him and so he barked at her and he was very scared. Nowadays he would be too laid back to take notice, but here was someone who's very fear of dogs actually made them a focus of attention to a dog who might even see her actions as an attack.

I like to go into London bridge more than anywhere else. It's fantastic. I can be in convent garden or on my way to Bedford in no time via the charing cross connection, actually quicker than when I lived in Pimlico or south ken. Don't diss the Eileen mister.