Remember, people, we are not just talking about the TV channels - 1, 2, 3, 4, HD, but also the radio stations - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1 Extra, 5 Extra, local and regional radio, Asian network, Radio Cymru and Radio Nan Ghadheal (sp), World Service - in English 24/7, plus all the language services - including Burmese, Chinese, Russian, and Cantonese, BBC Online, regional telly, regional websites, orchestras, neighbourhood initiatives, campaigns. There truly is something for everyone, and actually, a lot of things for everyone. The whole 'dumbing down' is a canard. The BBC has always had fun programmes - Generation Game, anyone? Anyone who thinks it is not worth having, or, more likely, uses his antipathy to the licence fee to call for a ban, is really not thinking fairly. Nero