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Now that sounds fun. Any chance of seeing the hipsters and rag tag Corbynista's getting a good kicking off the 'wackers?

Why not remove all the fences/gates?

I'm thinking of opening a bar called "old boots" where you drink Real Ale out of old boots, anyone in?

I agree with you Mr M. In the case for the defense, what has any manager since Hoodle achieved in making England look competitive at the business end of international football (the tournaments)? With hindsight, I think that 5-1 win over Germany wasn't great for English football as it made Sven untouchable for way too long. 1998 since we've looked like we could win anything....... Careful what you wish for :)

Tories now over 10% clear in You Gov Voting Intention Poll (that had Labour 1% up in April) - including marginally ahead in London. TMAY bounce.... that will fade! Lib dems in sign of a recovery, Labour 29%....I'm amazed they're getting that much, Tories 40%

damn you ed_pete!

I agree with DoverTheRoad M&S was worshipped for food about 15 years ago! Not sure it's that much of a pull nowadays. Anyway, this thread is miles of amusement with it's mixture of pooterishness and faux class hatred.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I remember correctly there are people in the > financial markets who make dosh out of good and > bad things. > > Someone I know, not exactly a mate, made great > fortune out of the recession, something to do with > reinsurance. > > > I should have course put my life savings into > Euros a few weeks ago. You should have put your life savings into the FTSE 100 the afternoon of Brexit for a better return :)

1977 - God Dave the Queen the Sex Pistols 1980 - Trevor Brooking header 1981 great year for music 1985 Live aid felt good at the time 1989 - acid house moves from clubs to field (and very hot) 1990 - Gazza's tears 1992 - Major wins, just unbelievably depressing at the time 1996 - Euro's in UK fantastic 1997 - "things can only get better".....for a while 2005 - what you said 2012 Olympics were great As I've got older these cultural things mean less, I guess as I'm struggling after the 90s :)

Lordship 516 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Dose this really need another thread as it's > > already been discussed on another?? It's a bit > > spammy Lordship.... > > The other thread is about the ECONOMY - this is > about a specific & important issue - I didn't > intend to spam & there is plenty of space. Next > time I feel like opening a thread I might ask your > approval first. I enjoy the economic stuff; I like reading your input; I'm glad you're here...just think it's a bit spammy on a relatively micro-issue which won't have massive interest to most posters. Just my opinion.

I'm questioning your forecasting skills even more now Lordship :) "100,000 by the 11th"

Dose this really need another thread as it's already been discussed on another?? It's a bit spammy Lordship....

I don't disagree - I'd add fibre optic broadband (or whatever the next generation is called ) to that list. I do think the Tories are going to do some Keynesian stuff for sure now - Ed Milliband must be shaking his head in disbelief.

miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, a lot of the modern trouble in the > Middle East starts with the weakening and loss of > the Ottoman Empire, and subsequent on-again > off-again meddling by the Western Powers after > WWI. As far as the Ottoman Empire starting it all > here are things you can Wiki in reverse > chronological order: Crusades, Byzantine-Arab > wars, Arab siege of Constantinople, Roman-Persian > Wars... Nah,the real problems stem from when Ghengis Khan/the mongols obliterated the empires of the Middle East/Persia and left a vacuum. "too early to say" as Mao once said :)

Selective quotation isn't the issue it's the headline... I don't disagree with any of that - but we are where we are so continual doom-mongering achieves nothing and makes thing worse - the headline selection is for me interesting and the relevant point. Anyway, you got any ideas or are you caught up in the whole Corbynista against everything but no solutions zeitgeist?

Short term people are worried. Long term (and medium): People in the UK obsessed with home ownership Population forecast to grow Economy still forecast to grow in the medium term Housing stock (supply) woefully below demand Interest rates not going up anytime soon Credit restrictions (via capital ratios) on banks recently loosened Housing just got 10% cheaper for foreign investors Short term uncertainties and some kind of collective hysteria about the UK and London undermining the fundamentals is my opinion. If prices drop 30% plenty of people will jump at the market and prices will recover. In 2008 the global financial system approached Armageddon - house prices plummeted...can anyone remind us how long before prices in London recovered? If you need to sell right now you are probably going to take some sort of haircut but beyond that all will be OK is my opinion

see also oysters

There's some reasonably good news and things have held up better so far (by far) than many predicted - the normal suspects continue to paint the bleak picture; Guardian and BBC reporting Old Mutual Fund manager assessment on the situation as "Horrible for UK" in their headlines, which is out of context - almost theatre review selective commentating - when his actual words were far more nuanced: "I think the economy is going to judder to a halt [or] have a mild recession, but I don't think it is going to be as severe as some of these shares are pricing in... The real economy is only going to gradually emerge over the next three to six months," Mr Buxton said. Could have done without this (Brexit) don't like the uncertainty but fook me people are really talking the UK down (and, it's the predictable sources Plus some on here, naturally :) )

No mention of CAP? Seems a big gap in your analysis My understanding is that the trade tariffs the EU impose of food stuff (largely to protect French farmers) artificially inflates food prices by between 15-30%; so in the medium to long term Brexit could well reduce food prices to a true market level for foodstuff. well below the 7% short term spike in inflation....

Anyway, Harris gets it right here IMO... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/15/labour-death-spite-bullying-working-class-base

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Canary is every bit as biased as The Sun. This. LOL people putting the Canary up as some sort of source of honest journalism....I think it's comparable to the mailonline in terms of quality/objectivity (not politics obviously)

Brown rocking

Apparently this will be the least privately educated Cabinet since 1945 and, staggeringly, the new Education Minister is the FIRST one to have attended a comprehensive. The 'posh boys' attacks a bit redundant now ( ironically more applicable to Corbyn's Kabul) although I'm never convinced they were very effective anyway.

Camber Sands is a proper massive beach (with a reasonable number of eaterise etc nearby) and great but a bit further journeywise. BroadStairs is an OK sized beach but part of a more traditional victorian seaside town. If you're not bothered about a slighly longer journey it would be Camber sands all day long for me.

..or would you rather Gove? People mixing up their Tory hate with actual realpolitik here.