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..and maybe the British media Barcelona crush may subside for a while

Were there any bigots there?

Haven't read this thread since last night...have you been digging yourself a deeper hole Mick?

I saw Tessa in LL the saturday before last she even smiled at me, and she's bothered to answer the Qusetions put to her by th EDF. I don't think anyone can criticise her for being complacent or not canvassing/engaging.

I haven't seen one Conservative poster or any conservative canvassers yet,,,have had a leaflet

Again assumptions on attitudes and beliefs based on god knows what....I do get fed up of it on here it's bleeding constant. You can't seem to have objective conversations on this forum without posters having a whole load of pre-concieved views/ baggage about individuals attitudes and politics FFS. Which are frequently wrong and prejudiced.,,,I get fucking fed up with it. The fact is that Greece has vastly overspent on cheap credit based on false accounting to get into the Euro in the first place. Is that good for the world economy. NO Is that good for the ? No Is that good for the Euro NO Is that good for the people of Greece NO Is it a terrible horrible mess and shame YES Is it much to do with Bankers NO For pointing out some of these truths about the reality of running a unified currency from a very different bunch of countries and political and economic countries and the need for governemnts spending and using credit sensibly, I get treated like I'm some evil hedgefunding billionairre laughing gleefully as people's lives are wrecked. FFS

As well as economics people should read David Copperfield

Oh agree MP but my point is that fundamentally the US armed forces are trined 'to fight and win wars, period

Loan sharking Brendan? - Greece got cheap finance as part of joining the euro since when it's gone mad on its new credit card and way overspent now no-one will lend it anything except at a very high rate (reflecting risk) and that increasingly appears to be including Germany. Greece and possibly others have overindulged themselves on cheap finance as part of the benefit of joining the German underwritten Euro. Having over indulged they subsequently seem unable to make the neccessary very painful adjustments to stay in the very thing that gave them the cheap money in r=the first place. You could argue that it is the Euro itself that has got them in this mess as they weren't financially mature enough to deal with it. How this is all the bankers fault is a bit beyond me to be honest

Read The Naked and the Dead, it explores the US war pysche pretty well and still pertinent today I reckon. Conceptually, and moving morality aside, you could argue that if the ultimate objective of war is to defeat the enemy then this type of approach is the right one and that hearts and minds and dealing with the aftermath is the job of politicians and civilians.

Where's my gloat? Only in your imagination - it's a blow to global economic stability and prosperity. RE the pound read the other thread and see what I said about the pound...it's only in your imagination that I haven't been going on about the shocking state of the UK's public finances and economy for the past two years but your attitude seems to be Quids questions the vadility of the Euro in its current format ergo = little englander, btitain is great, europhobe etc...such is the way of the certain - dogma, unqustioning belief, smeer etc etc for those that dare to question something that is conceptually a good idea but practically looks increasingly flawed. Dogma over reality and putting words that are simply not there into someone elses mouth once again Hugenot, you have so much previous on this it's unreal. It's amusing when ones mood is right but tiresome continually and detracts from many an otherwise intersting debate, Today I'm amused so will get back on WHY IT'S NOT ALL THE BANKERS FAULT later.

So did Jim Callaghan, Michael Foot and Niel Kinnock

Wolfie

Wot legalb said and, Mick, if you'd actuallly listened to the piece on the BBC rather than rushing on here you'd have heard the conclusion was very much as LBs post....blooody men

23% are , ahem, 'Reds', according to the latest poll

Clever chap like you should read some economics...

Isn't the Euro going to sort this out? Rather simplistic actually Hugenot - the Greeks borrowed rather a lot of money for 'stuff' like thier pensions and Olympics and a brand new sapnking metro that they couldn't afford to pay back and no-one will lend them money now except at a huge premium........not even the Germans. Some of us told you this was going to happen ages ago and you wouldn't believe us.....Portugal next Rotten bankers eh

Is Tessa the only one who is bothering? In which case I take my hat off to her. A bit of a lack of engagement on the others parts, I know its election time but this is surely a decent and efficient way to engage with a reasonable amount of constituents?

PS this could well be the UK soon.. so no gloat

Huge - this isn't a gloat but Greece debt to junk status I do admire your utter Canute like conviction that the purity of the idea will somehow defy reality

Absolute class rant

Goddle approves of England's training facilities.... Personally Can't wait now - just get the domestic stuff out the way now the Hammers are safe ;-)

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From the greatest male soul singer EVER...... Otis Redding

If they all live at home with their parents what's the one whose living with you doing...are you his dad/mum/brother/sister?