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Wise behaviour...this time next year I reckon (guess) will be when it starts turning but I think it will be slow then

....Indeed, I thnk that 'they' will, although HIGNFY seemed business as normal last night eg "If Jonathonn Ross went to prison for this he'd certainly have to watch his 'Rs'". But the debate seems to have moved away from the relity that most people believe that comedy/satire general rudery can go as close to the edge as it wants but phoning people up and leaving offensive messages on their answer machines is illegal under harrasment laws and rightly so. an attack on this highly offensive behaviour is not an attack on 'comedy'....as the opposite equivalents to the 'Daily Mail' readers seem to keep missing in their branding of all who think RD and JR's behaviour as disgraceful as 'little englanders,, etc

...and that time was 1937

Which given next year's going to be a far worse year in the general (real) economy makes us 'miserable doomsters' saying prices will fall by something nearer 40% peak to trough not look so far off the mark

but finally, my favourite website gets it right "Brand is a juvenile arse, who is also totally unfunny. Woss is an irritating, ego fixated, total arse. And I wouldn't touch the Daily Mong with your bargepole. Hope that helps." Goodnight

As an aside, I've just seen Mark Thompson on Newsnight...he is deeply unimpressive

I think I agree...but maybe it is possible that it's a genuine public view that cheap, laddish, and actually bullying behaviour, by highly paid 'celebs' (and I agree Moyles et al are equally culpable) perhaps contributes to creating a culture where yobbish behaviour, 'happy slapping', and a genuine lack of respect (in the traditional sense of the world) for others is more commonplace than in the past.......

I was bored, there's no decent arguments anywhere else

Soooo to find their behaviour repugnant means that you're a Daily Mail reading, hang'em anf flog em, 'fascist'....yup that's a tolerant and well thought out viewpoint....but some what predictable

oh this is sooooo yesterday's row.....I'm looking for a tear up on something more topical

Not good at this weblinky thing but...the DailyMash http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/ross-and-brand-are-heroes%2c-say-spanish-200810301363/

But then 50,000 Spaniards racially abused the English team a couple of years back so the Spanish nation deserved that in advance...in fact, let's forget about civility altogether...its a bit 'old world' or 'Daily Mail' isn't it you Kaaaant

yup, we'll he' got his come uppance 30 years later...that'll learn im

No,it's just wacky post modern broadcasting...don't be such a Daily Mail reading stuffed shirt

"you and yours" Fuck Off Sean...you can be an offensive twat behind that veneer of niceness....and I mean that

Ok - how about "I fucked your mum" on your answer machine and other puerile offensive rambling.

He cancelled the interview for what it's worth... yup, saying what they did is wrong makes you Daily Mail...yup...nice one......you wacky fellas

OK - PM me your phone number and I'll leave you some random insulting messages, you're a big boy after all

Ok,i don't like a world where 78 year olds have random, offensive messages left on their answer machine - or infact anyone. Doesn't show much 'respect' to anyone in the old sense of the world...however, 'respect' to Russ and Ross in the 'well cool dissing the crumblies and woman' sense of the world...yeah.....nice one. Sorry - this is disgraceful behaviour

Have you both legs?

Denmark Hill...sorted

Insulting pensioners maybe considered all very post modern and ok with the urban elite of SE22 but I think they're a pair of cunts

Hmmmm...but the BBC has, i believe, a remit above pure commercial values and I'm not sure if insulting pensioners and what legally actually is harrassment is part of that...if he'd done it to my grandad I'd liked to have stoved the twats head in to be honest

?7 million a year to insult pensioners on their answer machines strikes me as great value for Licence payers

yup- you can tell you've no kids as you think mum's "lounge around in coffee shops all day"... ...anyway, to answer your question, it strikes me as odd that ED seems to appeal to 20 somethings as it's family oreintated with housingstock and not very cool, but nevertheless it seems to attract them, I thought it was dull when I was in my 20s and Camberwell was far more a 20s place...