Parkdrive

The saggy jowled one will probably wriggle out of it, and it was never a pen. City have their card marked do you think?

Is it any wonder City fans they are hard done by! Poor penalty decision.

The judge in Harry Redknapp trial has repeatedly warned him to stop winking and nodding at the jury.

What you see is what you get - The Dramatics

Kenny Dalglish has rubbished reports that Andy Carroll will be shown the door this month, he said" we showed him it last month and he couldn't find it!"

Wonder if it's worth having a flutter on which City player will get sent off tonight?

Ladygooner Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > red devil Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well said LG, nice to know there are Gooners > who > > know what support actually means...you should > post > > on here more often :) > > Fergie once got the bird from Utd fans after > his > > first 3 seasons when we seemed to be going > > backwards not forwards. > > But after what he has since achieved I too > would > > be disgusted if that happened now. Wenger > deserves > > far more respect than he got yesterday. > > Thanks Red Devil - I don't find your remarks at > all patronising. > TBH I get fed up of all the petty squabbling and > dick swinging by the male forumites on this > football thread - perhaps I will just learn to > ignore all that and post more often!

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well said LG, nice to know there are Gooners who > know what support actually means...you should post > on here more often :) > Fergie once got the bird from Utd fans after his > first 3 seasons when we seemed to be going > backwards not forwards. > But after what he has since achieved I too would > be disgusted if that happened now. Wenger deserves > far more respect than he got yesterday. As a fan of the club since 1968, I refuse to follow a manager or group of players blindly or without question. To do so would give the illusion that as a group we feel all is rosy when patently it is not. If you wish to blindly and sheepishly follow your manager and players that's your prerogative. As for our run in the champions league this season, I'll be sitting the stand watching and enjoying it all the more knowing that for all the huge investment made by both Manchester clubs in the previous transfer window, you didn't qualify for the knock out stage. Wonder what the reaction would have been had that been Wenger.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Agree with Atila. Phil Neville was a real dirty > bast**d of a player. Add Denis Irwin to the list > too! As for Bobby Charlton.......well, words fail > me. And Nobby Stiles

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stamp it out... Lets hope he does appeal and is successful. I don't recall the same hue and cry being raised after the recent horror tackles from Glenn Johnson and Lampard. Some cycnics might argue its because they are England squad players and had a baring on the refs decision. If the footballing authorities in this country want to be taken seriously they should have accepted Rooneys international ban and not appealed against it. Double standards at work?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well said LG, nice to know there are Gooners who > know what support actually means...you should post > on here more often :) > Fergie once got the bird from Utd fans after his > first 3 seasons when we seemed to be going > backwards not forwards. > But after what he has since achieved I too would > be disgusted if that happened now. Wenger deserves > far more respect than he got yesterday. Patronsing bull shit and nothing less than I expect from you.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stop ranting and take your medication Atila. > > Manchester 2 London 0...welcome to the future :) Indeed? Is that to show which clubs will be playing european football shown on Channel 5? Truth hurts, and as for medication if you believe you shower will win anything this season you are sadly deluded. By the way did you go to the game or did you sit in your comfy chair with your replica shirt on. I be looking to see what you come up with when you next lose a game or will you do a ferdinand and go missing.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lee Dixon quite rightly had the proverbial taken > out of him on MOTD last night for his Balotelli > 'lost his balance' appraisee. IMO it was a > deliberate back heel, and I trust Howard Webb, > when he reveiws the video, will confirm that he > would've red carded him had he seen it. I like > Mario, I think the game needs character's like > him, but he can't get away with thuggery like > that. Not sure what the situation with Lescott is, > did Webb see the elbow and let it go, or will that > be reviewed too? > On a happier note, loved the sight of those ever > so loyal Gooners baying at Wenger and booing > Arshavin...priceless :) Strange how you went missing after losing a few games, but thats loyalty for you eh? Loyalty being questioned by a rags fan is laughable. As for your loyal "fans" you had a very small section of the ground which made hardly any noise until you scored. Most of them that had rags colours on spoke with a cockney accent. Loyalty? is that what "once a blue always a blue" Rooney demonstrated when he held his "beloved" club to ransom for a measly ?250,000 a week? Yep thats loyalty for you. He displays his loyalty by kissing the baddge in the same way that he kisses his wife before going off to a whore house. Loyalty. Please. And as for your view on the incident, I find it rich that a rags fan sees fit to lecture us on thuggery. Isn't this the club that has had the Eric "Kung Fu" Cantona and Roy "leg breaker" Keane, Scholes, the Neville Brothers etc in its ranks? And you have the balls to accuse others of thuggery.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's Lee Dixon, Arsenal stalwart and Manchester > City fan. Hmm... and maybe his view is different because he believes what he's saying as do I.

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Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I don't think Ballotelli deliberately stamped on > Parker.Therefore I don't > > see why Redknapp was wildly waving his arms > around > > gesticulating and shouting that Ballotelli > should > > have been sent off. For me that is just as bad > as > > the dashing Mr Mancini waving the imaginary > card. > > The game could have gone either way, but had > that > > been the Arsenal playing City yesterday I'd > have > > been very, very disappointed. > > I don't think you'd be saying that if it had been > an Arsenal player he stamped on. You'd be baying > for his blood. As for Arsene Wenger's post match > interview yesterday his arrogance knows no bounds. > Graceless in defeat as usual. I'm not having a go at spuds, I just don't think it was red because it wasn't intentional. If you want to go that route you could equally argue Parker was lucky to be on the pitch at that stage after the tackle he made on Richards. As for graceless, there wasn't a lot of grace in Redknapps comments. But as always you take it as a side swipe, which wasn't my intention. But if you want to take exception thats up to you.

Went to the Arsenal and watch a very poor game played out by two very average sides. I can see either side winning anything this season. I've not seen a poorer Arsenal side for close on 20 years. United looked equally lightweight. Opponents will not fear playing either side on current form. I watched the spuds game in the Woodbine before walking to the ground, I don't think Ballotelli deliberately stamped on Parker.Therefore I don't see why Redknapp was wildly waving his arms around gesticulating and shouting that Ballotelli should have been sent off. For me that is just as bad as the dashing Mr Mancini waving the imaginary card. The game could have gone either way, but had that been the Arsenal playing City yesterday I'd have been very, very disappointed.

Yes I loved the Arsenal ones, good stuff.

Got my tickets for Sundays clash between the Arsenal and the rags. I have no idea of how this game will go and won't have a stab at predicting the outcome, especially as my midweek prediction of Wolves to beat Brum didn't come off but my prediction for Barca to beat Real and Brighton to overcome Wrexham did. Shame they were in an accumulator!!!(6)

Annasfield Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jesus christ. They way that you write certain > things I've often thought you were quite > intelligent. > > I was clearly very wrong. Yep.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So far as I know the judge is required to take > into account the impact of a crime in sentencing, > but not the victim's views on what the sentence > should be. The personal statement is an > opportunity for the victim to share this > information from a personal perespective. > > However the statement is also weighted by the fact > that it doesn't take place under > cross-examination, and hence it's diificult to > interpret its validity. > > I'm concerned that the victim statement may > generate sentencing decisions based on the best > creative writing. Yet another sysmpathetic view, and yet again screw the victim.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Hillsborough disaster was awful on so many > levels, and the treatment of both the victims and > their reputations added a further terrible > contribution to the whole situation. > > However, Mrs. Williams essentially wants to turn > the finding on Kevin Williams from 'accidental > death' to 'unlawful killing': > > "The appropriate standard of proof is that the > unlawful killing must be beyond reasonable doubt. > This is when the evidence was so overwhelmingly > obvious that death would result, that no other > thing is taken into account." > > This means that she wants the court to find that > the police deliberately engineered a situation > where Liverpool fans would be killed, knowing that > they would be killed as a result. > > This is such an extraordinary misanthropic claim > that I do not believe this particular e-petition > should be supported. > > Even the European Court of Human Rights - so > traditionally opposed to the Britsh establishment > - rejected her case. > > People who care enough about Anne Williams to sign > this petition might actually wonder whether the > kind thing to do would be to try and defuse the > situation rather than inflame it. As I said before, you are a one off. Thank god. Do you go out of your way to be unsympathetic and abrasive or does it come naturally. Incredible. The only person out to "inflame" the situation here is you.

He did argue he was in danger and he won his appeal, I think I'm right, in arguing that he was acting in self defence and was in fear of his life. Mr. Martin had also been subjected to previous break ins which he duly reported to the authorities, who did very little about it.

What really gets under my skin is the amount of effort thats put into criminal rehabilitation, and lets be honest many of them are beyond redemption, yet victims are left to fend for themselves. Its little wonder that some have so little faith in the legal/justice system that they take the law into their own hands. The case of farmer Tony Martin springs to mind.