Parkdrive

nashoi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The country was less tolerant and more violent in > the 70s and 80s, pubs just reflected that Not for me it wasn't, you're describing an alien country to me and I've lived in SE London for most of my adult life.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doesn't ring true for me at all, but then I'm not > from around eeeeere originally. > > Pubs from what I remember were 'specifically' > niche and non-inclusive. The one you didn't go in > if you were over 20, the one you didn't go in if > you were a student, the one you didn't go in if > you were an unaccompanied female, the one you > didn't go in unless you knew someone who was a > regular, the one you didn't go in if you had long > hair.. and the one you just didn't go in. Where were these places you refer to, local or from where you originally come from? I don't recognise your description at all. Sounds as if you're describing a saloon from a wild west movie.

I notice, unsurprisngly, how negative the remarks are regarding pubs in the 70's and 80's. Most of the ones I frequented were fine, they weren't swish, or elegant or poncey, just good old fashioned watering holes where you could go and enjoy a pint. This applied to pubs I visited in pubs in places like Richmond and Teddington, as well as locally. The reason for going to a pub was to meet friends and, surprisingly, have a bevvy. Most people I knew would go to a restaurant to eat, another novel concept, and not to a pub. I remember going to the Lord Nelson on the corner of the Old Kent Road in the middle 70's and feeling a bit peckish, the only thing they could offer me was cheese and onion roll, and it was like ambrosia. I also remember fondly the tendency for ladies and gents to dress up to go to these pubs on a Friday and Saturday and very good they looked too. The trend these days seems to be to dress like you've either slept in your clothes and gone out without looking in the mirror or dressing like a beneficiary of a local charity hand out.

brassco3866 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ash kebabs takeaway opening 11th august 102 forest > hill rd se220rs > > Good quality > Fresh food > Cooked with love Good luck my friend, kebabs cooked properly using the right kind od ingredients are a joy. Take no notice of some of the ill informed comments on here, they make similar comments on every thread.

Down the dustpipe - Status Quo

NewWave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is an event called "good Jumble" I think > which occurred recently in Havelock walk in Forest > Hill, I Believe the idea was people selling better > quality used clothes. > Perhaps google it..I saw several flyers and I got > the impression it was going to become a semi > regular event. > I wouldn't bother with ebay unless they're > designer brands. Not true, if they are "vintage" as in from 70's and 80's, you'll do well, my brother and a friend make a living out of doing just that.

Millhaven Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > It was the Havelock Arms, it was on the > opposite > > side of the road to the shop my father and I > owned > > in the 70's and early 80's. The owner, who was > had > > a local reputation as a bit of a villian, and > his > > family used to shop with us and we, naturally, > > returned the favour. That was a proper family > run > > boozer. There was also a pub also on the > opposite > > corner, possibly called the Clarkson Arms, but > I'm > > not 100% certain. > > Clarkson Arms does sound familiar. I think I went > in there just the once. As a part of a visiting > darts team. My recollection is that we were made > so unwelcome we all departed about 15 seconds > after the last dart was thrown. > Havelock Arms - was run by the mother and daughter > of said villian and both were called Shirley (I > think). And you are right, it was a proper family > run boozer. Rarer than hen's teeth now. The ladies were both called Shirley and the owner also owned a haulage firm with a largish yard on the side of the pub which often housed a large flat back lorry. They often sent us over a couple of pints on a Saturday when we were too busy in the shop to get over there.

Get rhythm - Ry Cooder

Flog them on ebay, vintage shops buy stuff like that but give you pennies for your stuff.

Millhaven Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was a pub on Meeting House Lane, Peckham > (the road down the side of the police station) > Havelot Arms (I think that is how it was spelt). > Anyway, they used to have the most amazing *free* > bar food on a Sunday. You could get every kind of > seafood including and I kid you not, caviar and > escargot. It was there that I first experienced > both those particular foods. But they also did the > traditional bar food like roast spuds and prawns > and whelks. > > Also used to have a chappy touring the pubs of > East Dulwich and Peckham selling seafood stuff > like jellied eels (yuk!) and roll mops and what > have you. You don't see those guys anymore. > Another pub tradition gone by the wayside. It was the Havelock Arms, it was on the opposite side of the road to the shop my father and I owned in the 70's and early 80's. The owner, who was had a local reputation as a bit of a villian, and his family used to shop with us and we, naturally, returned the favour. That was a proper family run boozer. There was also a pub also on the opposite corner, possibly called the Clarkson Arms, but I'm not 100% certain.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Otta Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Yeah Alan. You total bastard! > > > > > > Not a bastard, just a irksome fcukwit > > Now that's just plain rude. You got that right

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah Alan. You total bastard! Not a bastard, just a irksome fcukwit

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hugo and Sol? How did Celtic get on in CL qualifier Alan? That's far more amusing then your stab at humour.

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Parkdrive Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'm suspicious of the whole misty eyed 'proper > > boozer' schtick. As someone who does frequent > 'old > > man pubs', I have to tell you that they're > > generally not 'full of characters', but more > 'half > > empty with one or two pub bores generally best > > avoided' and twas always so. > Huge sweeping and erroneous statement. The pubs > I've used over the years in Peckham, Nunhead, East > Dulwich, Camberwell used to be well used by locals > and most lived a stones throw away, especially > true of the Clock House in the 80's and early > 90's. The misty eyed among us would claim that the > pubs today are more interesting these days because > they are frequented by middle aged dullards > discussing property prices. Thought I'd replace one sweeping statement with one of my own

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm suspicious of the whole misty eyed 'proper > boozer' schtick. As someone who does frequent 'old > man pubs', I have to tell you that they're > generally not 'full of characters', but more 'half > empty with one or two pub bores generally best > avoided' and twas always so. Huge sweeping and erroneous statement. The pubs I've used over the years in Peckham, Nunhead, East Dulwich, Camberwell used to be well used by locals and most lived a stones throw away, especially true of the Clock House in the 80's and early 90's. The misty eyed among us would claim that the pubs today are more interesting these days because they are frequented by middle aged dullards discussing property prices.

The board told BFS to stick with Morrison, and yes he was an arsehole at Yanited.

If your criteria is how a pub looks, then I wouldn't give the EDT a second look. Do you mean best pub as in quality and range of booze, quality of staff etc?

Rock creek park - Blackbyrds

Saturday in the park - Chicago

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because his wage demands aren't a steal probably. If the transfer fee is such a "steal" the wage demands wouldn't be such an issue, either they are ridiculously high, or there's something else amiss

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ETA: This is response to PD's post > > And at the risk of repeating myself, no, I > wouldn't suggest that at all. But I think it's > been pretty much proven that they're not going to > win in a fight. > > I stand by all of my earlier comments, but Israel > are no longer responding to rocket attacks, they > are now full on trying to wipe Hamas out (and > failing miserably). Netanyahu is looking more and > more like a man that is actually enjoying this. > > BUT, despite feeling this, I will still stand by > my suggestion that if you strip away all the > weaponry and get the two "sides" (not that they > represent their people very well) in a room, > neither of them would be interested in peace, and > dare I say it, especially Hamas. And you think Israel are? Naive if you do

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > According to Arry there's nothing wrong with > Remy's fitness. It's more to do the the other guy > not wanting to leave. I'd have thought Remy was a > steal at ?7.5M. If he's such a "steal" how is it none of the other big clubs have near nor by? Just asking

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Okay, Benjamin Netanyahu is just taking the piss > now. If your objective is collapse tunnels then > just collapse them. > > And yet Ismail Haniyeh continues to say "The > destruction of stones will not break our will and > we will continue our resistance until we gain > freedom.". I'm sure the average man and woman if > Gaza is over the bloody moon to hear that. At the risk of repeating myself, what would you suggest they do, accept the sub human treatment dished out by the Israeli state? Offer no resisitance against the illegal occupation of their land and illegal settlements? Far too glib.

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