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buggies must be a bit like keyboards in that respect then I imagine.

:)

It is of course possible she was tutting to her friend at the awfulness of her father spending her inheritance on yoghurt.

Really these threads boil down to "some people with [_______] are inconsiderate arseholes" The blank can be filled with buggies, children, bikes, cameras, bus passengers, cars, cigarettes, class x, red hair, baseball caps, funny accents, white skin, black skin etc etc The target is a red herring, it's irrelevant, some poeple are nice and some arent, all these threads do is reveal the prejudices of the complainant.

Does everything on this forum always come back to clowns and neatly trimming ones thicket?

For large chunks of our journies, we effectively already do. And what with the remote flying technologies already in use by the military seguing into civilian use, no reason why an airline can't just have a call centre with ten pilot for the entire fleet to take over when things get tricky. Only a matter of time...

I think woody favours this sort of thing

Yeah, 4 quid and I reckon I'd stretch to it, but that's too much.

here you go http://applenapps.com/review/beethovens-9th-symphony-world-class-app-sonata

Not a game at all, but just umming and aahing about this ipad app. [applenapps.com] I downloaded the teaser (all 1.6gb of it, goodbye Baldurs gate for the time being) and it's clearly beautifully crafted, sounded great through headphone amp and switching between the 4 classic performances whilst seeing the scrolling score with colour coded key shifts is insightful for a musical layman like me. Will be a good learning resource for the kids...in about 8 years time. but a tenner...ouch! Mind you, a CD of it would come in at a similar price.

fuck me, wrong thread again...going senile or the software is going potty

It was quieter than usual this morning though still busy. Avoid the back two carriages, just in front of that and you should get in there, and someone might offer a seat for the crumblies, though I wouldn't count on it.

John (james caan) in Rollerball

Jamie - Jamie and his Magic Torch

actually it was both ;-P -- edited, thinking about it you're right, maybe I should have said 'offered a hand' ----------------------- as for the wooden oedipal dream, I remember that scene that he groaned through his wet dream and woke saying 'i was dreaming about my mother', and the entire cinema burst out laughing. I wish George Lucas had been there, he might have given his franchise away to someone sooner and spared our childhoods a little. anyway EDW, all yours.

Oh jesus, soooooo close, stacey.

As the man in black he lends his son a hand, or was it the other way round?

nice but no.

wrong thread again!!!

ooh like it, but no.

Perhaps that's because it's an interpretation. Each faith in the hugely schismatic christian universe is a different interpretation of it all. Most aren't literal, very few in fact, most of those are in Africa and the US and are generally fringe churches. It's very much on the rise in Israel too sadly, following very much the same trends that it's neighbours are, towards more conservative and literal interpretation and towards intolerance over understanding. Hell, even the Catholic church accepts that genesis is allegorical and that the scientists have it right. Likewise, without a central church islamic interpretations are centred around the koran, the legacy of the tales told about muhammed, his teachings and the teachings of those who followed. Of course the followers started disagreeing with each other the moment he died and everyone has disagreed about interpretation ever since, hence why there are deep schisms within that faith too and wide extremes of interpretation even among mainstream sunnis. It's really a pointless starting point to say that red pen needs to be taken to these books, because figuratively speaking that's what's been done for millenia. You're on to a hiding to nothing with this one I'm afraid.

Sadly D_C I thin kthe momentum is the other way in Islam. The modernising movement towards secular islam which took root in the twentieth century was betrayed by the likes of Phalavi, Saddam, Gaddaffi, Sadat and the Assads. Glimmers of hope in the Arab spring mask what is essentially an uneasy truce between modernists and salafists, which will be settled one way or another further down the line, and saldy Syria has effectively killed off that momentum for years to come. In most of the other states the trend is towards a more traditional interpretation. Ironically it's actually healthiest in Iran, a country governed by an autocratic, conservative theocracy.

poppycock WM, every aspect is open to interpretation, especially when its a book filled with thousands of contradictions, and they in turn are totally contradicted by the new revelation. The church spent two thousand years settling on agreed interpretations of every single verse and cherry picking what supports the consensus and what doesn't; read the prologue to the catechisms and that's pretty much it's stated treatement of the OT verbatim. As for the blood and fire in the book, well its essentially an oral history put to paper. How exactly would you describe Dresden or hiroshima to future genereations, it's just that stuff wrapped up in 'cos god said so' rather than that's what empires do to each other. People will always find an excuse for it, just look at Obama's words in the above link, even the good guys can be bad guys, and I'm pretty sure the drone policy is very much bad guy territory no matter how apparently effective it is at keeping his enemies off balance (and recruiting more for the future, nicely self perpetuating that way). Really most here are agreed that religion can be a hateful thing, I would rather see the world without it, but that would never stop this sort of thing, it will always be with us in one guise or other.

Here's that dirty word again. A superpower raining death from above all around the world on dusty hovels is a 'just' defensive war apparently. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22638533 See, it's soooo easy to do.

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