It's funny, every time this debate comes up, I start from a point of protecting the vulnerable from most to least ie starting at pedestrian, through cyclist, motorcylist, up the ranks from car to van etc. And then I finish reading the thread with almost no sympathy for cyclists whatsoever. Congrats lads, another fine thread. But yeah, hyperbole apart this thread could be summed up as 'rational folk agree 'don't be a cunt''