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woofmarkthedog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > legalbeagle Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It is called R v Brown and others. A group of > > consenting adults was caught (don't know how) > > doing various violent things to each others > > private parts. They had a password, so that > they > > could yell out in pain, but the activity would > > carry on, but if they yelled the password it > would > > stop. Various people in the party were charged > > with assault type charges (to be fair, not sure > if > > anyone was actually charged with torture). The > > question up for consideration was whether a > person > > can legally consent to that kind of assault - > if > > they could it wouldn't be an assault. It was > found > > that they could, but the poor chaps in question > > were still convicted - of offending public > morals. > > Not sure what that adds to the debate really > but > > when studing the case I had a jolly good > chuckle > > at reading various barristers terribly serious > > submissions to the court of appeal about the > true > > nature of nailing genitals to a plank..... > > -------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > L.E > > Was this the case where various men consented to > scalding/electrocuting and inflating each others > scrotums. > > In a private club, as you do ? > > W**F Indeed it is. Though being a girl I wouldn't know for sure what men do in private clubs.

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Jimmy, were you in fact one of the defendants in R v Brown? [see earlier post]. You do seem to love the idea of inflicting pain..........

jimmy two times Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm sorry Legal but how can you possibly compare > being nicked for drink driving or inciting racial > hatred, as nasty as these offences are, with > paedophilia or drug dealing? I'm not comparing them JTT, I agree with you that the offences aren't as severe. My point is that someone has to make the distinction between which offences are worse than others. As I said, my examples were exaggerations to make the point - how do you decide which offence is worse than the next? But this argument is a diversion from the bigger picture which is that your original post seems to be advocating torture to extract confessions in cases of serious crime. Any, even of there was a fair way of deciding which crimes are the most serious, my point is that there is never an excusable time to use torture.

jimmy two times Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What crimes have Paris Hilton and Nick Griffin > committed ? Paris Hilton is a convicted drink driver and has been to prison for it. Should she have been tortured to extract a confession to other drink driving occurences that the police didn't happen to catch her commiting? On your logic if she's done it once she's probably done it more than once, and drink divers have killed in the past. Nick Griffin has been investigated several times for inciting racial hatred and corruption though no charges has ever been brought. Should he have been tortured in order to extract a confession during either of those two investigations? Some instances of incitement to racial hatred have led to murder.

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