Since Labour lost to Mrs T, after the shenanigans surrounding mebership of Militant, I have been very suspicious of them -since anyone with aspirations to Government would, of necessity, cloak their extreme Left wing views (ok so you can accuse me of believing that they are Commies in disguise if you like- because I do anyway). Also, worryingly, someone I know who was a trade union rep. was offered a position on a regional association because they 'talked the talk'. The person in question had never had to prove themselves as being an effective rep. in 2 years as no opportunities had arisen in that time. I agree with EP- a leader needs to be a ruthless b...- it's what they do- not what they say. So far they are all a bunch of toothless wonders imho.