woodrot

He got the trains to run on time ( etc ), but it is true that development was dependent on expansion and the rescources ( both human and physical ) required. it was a bit of a national Ponzi scheme. China though is, quote frankly, fucked.How long they can stage manage it until a new cultural revolution is instigated or it collapses is the moot point

everton were unlucky last night, but a decent game anyway toon toon !

I think trying to seperate Lab vs Cons is a bit of a diversion really - this isnt the 1970s, where we had a genuine difference of opinion/ track between the two parties, the current situation involves two parties who are fighting for the middle ground - what we have in the UK is more like the US scenario. Also, I woulod suggest that WW2 was more pivotal in sorting out the depression than just a view held by a few critics. Herr Hitler had his own version of a new deal going on alongside FDR and it did jolt a collapsed germany into an industrial superpower in a truly astoundingly few number of years.Whether this was a keynisian inspired is a question for historians though innit

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You haven't shown why people "have to steal food". > You've shown me that it happens. > > I don't have a "proposal", though any food > solution would have to reflect two big factors: > > 1. Rising basic food prices across the globe, > which were the main immediate cause of the "Arab > Spring" unrest and riots elsewhere in the world. > Those prices are going up again... > 2. Phenomenal quantities of wasted food because of > our complex system of food production and > distribution, and the demands for convenience and > choice. No one "has" to do anything if I was being pedantic, but its impossible to generalise on much when humans and their perception / actions are involved- this is why economics is classed as a science, but in reality its nothing of the sort- 2+2 can actually = 5 if you spend enough time on it. at the most basic level, barring some kind of Malthusian wet dream, food price inflation / relative to incomes is here to stay. Whether we decide to blame the Chinese, the vampire squid speculators of Goldman Sachs or inequalities being exaggerated by globalism, its not going to get any better for those on the bottom. Agriculture depends on oil to a massive degree, from the blates obvious fuel consumption side , but alos in the production of fertilisers and chems needed to keep production high. I dont wish to be pigeonholed as some kind of stalinistic monothought anti globalist - but until the link between oil and food can be reduced ( we literally eat oil in essense ) , then its going to be messy. Again, not wishing to be labelled as a peak oil theory devotee, we are running out of this stuff are a serious rate bludz

OK on a sensible note, how do think this may impact some people : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19629997

we need more cats. lots more cats to deal with this MENACE. Fsailing that, lets get the populace tooled up and deal with this avaian scum ourselves. First the pigeons, then we can move onto shoplifters and burgulars. scum that do not deserve to live. lets get organised and clean up our manor

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > woodrot Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > Is it now ok to steal food, maybe things > have > > > got > > > > so bad for people that they have to > > > > > > No and no it hasn't. > > > > > > No and yes it has > > Show me why people have to steal food because it's > "got so bad". Nowe you mention it, of course. How wrong I have been. Luckily you are there to put me right.I was blind and now I can see etc. brandnewguy - barndnewcommonsensegy more like - shooting from the hip, giving the weedling, simpering so called liberal apologists a wake up call.

what is fair value ?

its an orgone accumulator bludz.

enough please - there are no points to be gained from futhering this discussion - everything you need to know to come to a decision can be viewed in recent BBC articles.

ED is bursting at the seams with people eager to buy apple products, queue for meat and spend shocking amounts on cash on virtually useless tat in its delightful independent shops - I cannot see any reason why the same victims would not look for other avenues to spunk their cash to try and brighten up their present worthless and shallow lives

Tom Micklewright Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think he has heard the Dulwich vegans are > starting our Meat Free Days again and is getting > prepared. > > If you would like to try a meat free day, which > reduces your carbon footprint, land, energy and > water use, then why not tweet me at > @DulwichVeganSoc and I'll send you some meat free > ideas! > > Tom would you steal broccoli and mung beans from the co-op if you were skint Tom ?

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Greengod Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Is it now ok to steal food, maybe things have > got > > so bad for people that they have to > > No and no it hasn't. No and yes it has

ED is now offically a cat free zone btw

Found a cat ? Do you have a pussy hanging around your house that isnt yours ? IS it mewing loudly ? Does it looky scrawny and hungry then why not try NOT FEEDING IT ? hey presto, no more cat hassle for you and fewer A4 "cat lost" signs stuck to trees & posts made in the lost & found section

Trolling can be a rewarding and satisfying pastime for many, but many inexperienced trollers made potentially fatal errors , that undermine their aims. heres are a few points for Prospective EDF trollers DO ingratiate yourself in low key areas, such as family section or lost and found before embarking on a killer troll DO cosy up to long term posters with messages of support in their utterly futile and invariably Wikipedia based arguments- this can pay dividends later DO use the smiley face icon to show that you are open and honest when beginning the ingratiation stage DONT invoke the "Clown" too early DONT Show your hand and write in BLOCK CAPITALS DONT use too many exclaimtion marks to make a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bloke I knew has scars all round his eyes. I asked how these came about. he replied " Glasses" I responded that he should use contact lenses He replied " they dont hold enough beer" etc

I would eat foie gras, but only if I could dress it up as a burgular and shoot it first. / crap thread with a transparent agenda ends

they once pressed a load of unsold yet perfect baguettes into my arms as I was walking past and they were closing for the day.

When I was just a baby, My Mama told me, "Son, Always be a good boy, Don't ever play with guns," But I shot a man on The Vibrant and bustling North Cross Road, Just to watch him die,

are those the bearded prigs that cruise around in a Morry pickup , pumping out dub ?

yes, there are lots - eg the Nick Cave one but here is something rather good http://www.sevenstreets.com/music-and-listening/announcements-music-and-listening/stream-john-peel-bbc-show-archive-download/ 458 John peel episodes for live streaming , from the 60s to his last. Currently listening to December 1976 . keeping it real in SE22

Xmas is banned at woodrot acres

From miserable, soor faced scotch loser to 100% British Hero in a few weeks how very fickle

Sadly, its been shut for 2 years as they are building an extension http://www.genesisexpo.co.uk/expansion.html Odd its taking so long, I would have thought 7 days would be enough for this