JohnL

actually the jute ones seem best for my shopping (and last through the battering I give them)

We already get US companies to do NHS outsourced roles BUT if the government changes policies in a way that may effect them they have to suck it up. A trade agreement means they can sue I think - so government to avoid being sued has to change it's Health policies so the US companies can make a profit - they might be legally forced to protect profits. Anyway Trump is either a fool or the great disruptor - I never heard the word disruption used in a business sense until he appeared - now it's the new buzz word.

Trump retraction made now according to Sky News ticker - that's what happened when they tried to incorporate it in TTIP too.

The suggestion was first made by Woody Johnson the US Ambassador - and he wasn't fully challenged when he said it. Trump says it and everybody loses it :) Anyway after DDay-75 he's off to Ireland tomorrow where I expect he'll fully back the GFA.

VelvetBlueberry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm pretty sure I read that the NHS talks were > started by somebody else... not Trump. & now that > people are asking him if NHS is on the table, of > course he's going to say it is, as everything is. > To say that this means he has his eyes set on the > NHS is just putting words into his mouth. We > mustn't jump to conclusions. I believe making a > deal with the US will be far more fair than any > deal made with the EU. He's retracted now As expected - the guy speaks before he knows what he's talking about.

Donald Trump has come to this country and basically caused chaos - turns out Sajid Javid wasn't invited to the Queens banquet (the only senior minister not invited) as people were scared Trump might mix him up with Sadiq Khan.

Three different pubs tonight I was sitting next to people cursing Trump over the NHS

When Trump was asked about the NHS he moved over to Theresa May and asked apparently what it stood for. Maybe expect some backtracking on this once his advisers tell him how much the UK values the NHS and how it might allow Corbyn to be elected.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I think hopes of a healthy relationship are > quite > > worrying. > > > > If Trump gets his hands on the NHS, that would > be > > un-doable - special relationship or not - I > think > > that would now be considered very one sided > > Apart from the training of the medics (who seem to > clear off asap) every piece of equipment, every > drug, all the cleaners, catering staff etc etc is > supplied by the private sector...this is an > example of what can happen > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-rich > ard-branson-virgin-care-legal-settlement-tendering > -contract-a8080961.html > The NHS probably benefits from economies of scale > > https://www.supplychain.nhs.uk/news/press-releases > /2012/smatter-better-procurement/- operated by > DHL.... I think this is what they want - already tried to get it in TTIP. "Once NHS services are outsourced to the private sector it may be difficult to reverse the process, particularly if trade agreements like TTIP are signed. The leading bidders for the Staffordshire contract for cancer and end of life care, for example, are all thought to be US private health companies. Under the investment protection measures that TTIP will probably include, a transnational corporation that wins an NHS contract will be able to sue the UK government for huge compensation if new government or local authority policies undermine the corporation?s future profits. " http://www.patients4nhs.org.uk/private-companies-involvement-in-the-nhs/

When the Queen gave Trump Churchill's first edition of "World War 2" she made the following speech ?After the shared sacrifices of the Second World War, Britain and the United States worked with other allies to build an assembly of international institutions, to ensure that the horrors of conflict would never be repeated, while the world has changed, we are forever mindful of the original purpose of these structures: nations working together to safeguard a hard-won peace,? The Washington Post has picked up on this - so Trump might too "The Queen did not explicitly name the institutions she was talking about, but the two global bodies established after World War II to prevent a similar conflict from happening again were the United Nations, NATO and later ? on a regional level ? the European Union. " https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/04/queen-has-remain-neutral-trump-one-comment-an-otherwise-diplomatic-speech-surprised/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c60fd0132513

The Chinese visits were a mixture of protesters and fervent supporters along the Mall in the past. I think the Mall is off limits with Trump. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4416574.stm (2005) https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/supporters-and-protesters-line-the-mall-for-chinese-state-visit-a3094821.html (2015) And then look what happened ..... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/23/activists-condemn-arrest-tibetan-pair-waving-flag-xi-jinping-met-police-chinese-president

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FFS - Corbyn is behaving like a child. Stamping > your feet because you don't like someone's > policies is not the way forward. What if he gets > elected as PM - will he just refuse to communicate > with individuals? Remember Chukka

The Queen is crafty She showed Trump the pewter horse he gave her last time and asked him if he recognised it "No" - Melania did however. Also gave Trump a book on WW2. Some Americans see this as "throwing shade" :) https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a27702429/trump-state-visit-england-tweets-memes/

This is from 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/07/tesco-to-end-sales-of-5p-carrier-bags I see myself using something more robust then the bags for life which I exchange frequently after "holing" edit: I think it's cucumbers that are worst for breaking them.

Same in M&S in Holborn - I gave the manager a dirty look after putting my sandwich in a huge bag. They want us to use our own I think which I will try to.

Trump is playing the trade deal game already. Liam Fox seems to have pulled back on trade deal expectations. They will be difficult and we will need to negotiate hard to keep our management of NHS resources and food standards it seems. What we are going to do I guess is put the NHS and food standards on the table and claim a success when we manage to retain most of those (but concede in most other areas). Fox now supports Jeremy Hunt for leader - read into that what you want.

Pay off debt (if you have any), Save a bit and try and gain skills that are in demand. That's the Brexit survival plan - but that won't help the unemployed, low paid, pensioners will be hit eventually as the government and oppositions have realised they need to help the young if they want future votes.

VelvetBlueberry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > or storming the streets like the sore losers that > they are, the fact still stands that we are due to > leave the EU, so I'm curious to know whether > they've been spending any of the past 2 years > productively thinking of ways to help themselves. Of course we have - do you think we're stupid - the poor will suffer whilst most of us here will be OK.

snoopy17 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Saw an elderly lady having trouble scanning her > bread at the self service tills. She needed to > enter the numbers, but was having trouble seeing > them. She called over the worker and you know what > this rude arrogant worker said. You have to put > the numbers in your self it's not my job to do it > for you. > > So that means her job role must be security guard > as she sure as hell isn't there to help you. They have come rushing over when I get stressed out at the tills (which is as soon as it flashes, beeps and says "unknown item in bagging area") but it depends on the staff member I suppose:) Once they made me feel like a criminal because I put my pin in wrongly - although the lady who came over rolled her eyes in a way that said "they've taken this mornings security briefing to far"

Angelina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What's this all about, Trump wants business deals > with NHS? That's the US Ambassador Woody Johnson (family company Johnson and Johnson). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_%26_Johnson

The Presidential plane is in sight over Stanstead when Sky News break that the President has just tweeted that Sadiq Khan is a loser.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That is good news. I hope that when it reopens > more work will be able to be done on the station > and on Khan's. When is the revamp actually meant > to take (have taken?) place? They're doing the internal work now apparently (that's the buildings that the leaseholders have moved out from). Don't think the whole thing completes until Autumn 2021 - and usually those deadlines get extended.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I provided police with (quite good) pictures of a > burglary next door. Several clear shots of the > look-out, one of the inside man handing the > look-out their loot, taken whilst I was waiting > for the police to arrive (I was on the phone to > the 999 call centre giving a running commentary on > what they were doing). The police turned up 20 > minutes later (5 minutes after the the thieves had > run away to their waiting car (the details of > which had been taken down by another neighbour). > Arrests? No of course not, even though they traced > the car and the people. 'Not enough evidence'. So > clear camera shots, two witnesses insufficient. > Don't hold your breath for a 'result'. They have to be careful - see Line of Duty ... "Tony Gates is renowned for returning the best crime figures of any unit in Central Police. It is this reputation, however, that leads AC-12 to his team. "

exdulwicher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > spider69 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > This morning at Sainsburys was a joke. > > > > The large self service checkouts have been cut > > back to 4. > > > > 2 only for cash and 2 for cards. That is it. > Ask > > a Manger and they say its not us. > > > > It took one person 20 minutes to look at her > > shopping decide what bag it should go in, > another > > person did not have her card and went off to > find > > money in all 25 minutes, no one using the cash > > tills. > > > > In effect the tills were shut down > > That's the people, not the facilities; people > stand there gormlessly in the queue and it gets to > the point they need to pay and they appear > surprised that money is required. Cue a shuffle > through the 17 pockets of their "organiser" (ha!) > handbag, a decision as to whether to pay by credit > or debit card or maybe they start counting out the > change and then realise as they get to ?17.34 that > they're 50p short and they go back to the card. > > You get similar in airports as people try to find > the ONE document that they need - a passport - and > it takes a trawl through 14 pockets and 5 minutes > of panic. It's the children causing chaos this week - or it was in Iceland - but it's half term isn't it (and not having children I have no understanding LOL)

"In theory, 5G will be able to simultaneously support more than a million devices per sq km (0.4 sq miles), a big jump over the 60,000-odd devices that 4G technology maxes out at. But to make this possible, antennas will be needed all over the place - from lamp-posts to bus shelters, in addition to more of the rooftop masts we're already used to." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48426481