JohnL

Sad :( I had a few there last week and enjoyed it.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My cat (to quote 'Bad Attitude' Baracus), "aint > getting in no plane" anyway. So not a big issue > for me. BA Baracus always ends up on the plane anyway.

Unfortunately I'd guess Spacey has many many more victims than have come forward.

From Facebook That's put a downer on my day :( "It is with a heavy heart that today we have had to take the decision to close The Gowlett. We have been working for some time on a package to allow Jack and the team to continue in place but alas, time has today run out. It is still hoped that this will happen sooner rather than later but that was taken out of my hands this morning. I can't even begin to apologise to the staff, customers, DJs, friends, suppliers and everyone else who have been involved in this being such an amazing place to be, enough. I've tagged a few of you here, but can't really think... I am broken. Understandably, I won't be responding to stuff over the coming few days, as I have enough to deal with. My first efforts are to ensure the staff are taken care of. I'll see you all on the other side of what this all may bring."

What, Why ? It's still popular. Moving on to other things ?

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He has apologised for quote 'deeply inappropriate > behaviour' and he's 'seeking evaluation and > treatment'. Doesn't look like a denial to me, and > sheer number of stories must be enough to worry > the producers about box office. Editing people in > and out of films isn't uncommon given CGI and the > use of body doubles and stunt people. There are now so many "accusations" (or whatever we can call them as many are admitted) that you re-shoot and that guy gets "accused". maybe bring in some new guys to be safe Current New York Times list (US based) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html

rent gazumping http://www.propertyindustryeye.com/high-street-lettings-agents-enabling-gazumping-in-the-rental-sector/ http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3310784

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have you noticed something about every story in > the Guardian about the Paradise Papers? None of > them are open to comment. Why? Because they know > that many commentators will point out the Guardian > Media Group's own off-shore shenanigans. > > The stories over the years have been, > unsurprisingly, covered in other media outlets, > including the Forbes and The Spectator. > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/2 > 8/the-insufferable-hypocrisy-of-the-guardian-on-co > rporation-tax/#2c2084065969 > https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/will-the-gua > rdian-now-investigate-its-own-tax-arrangements/ > > The Guardian were forced to defend themselves, > which basically came down to "yeah, we push lots > of money offshore, but that shouldn't stop us > complaining that others do it". > > https://www.theguardian.com/money/tax-gap-blog/200 > 9/feb/02/tax-gap-guardian > > I think Forbes' description of 'insufferable > hypocrisy' pretty much sums it up. I doubt the journalists who write the stories see much of this though - they just see further cost cutting along with all the back office workers who lose their jobs as the big newspapers all merge and have "economies of scale". So who benefits from GMG doing this. I say it's the greed of the same people at the top (the super rich). Of course everybody who works for a company where the executives are greedy like this could resign, doubt it will happen :)

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Everyone seems particularly keen to jump on people > recently. The forum is getting more reactionary > than usual. Time of year? Boris stirring.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder why letters get leaked? Johnson & Gove > appear to be running the Brexit show...... > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5073567/Bo > ris-Gove-s-plot-hijack-Number-10-exposed.html Goves wife isn't it. Anyway nice take off of the John Lewis ad sees Boris under Theresa's bed and a present that falls apart.

There is supposed to be .. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/roadworks-and-highway-improvements/street-works-register

DovertheRoad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As someone who has been falsely accused of > something previously - it's not fun. It can > destroy you. That's awful - and coming from Wales I know the culture their means someone like Carl Sargeant (whatever the truth of the matter) would have felt totally destroyed and unable to start again (it's a real goldfish bowl)

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rendelharris Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Always interesting to get a left wing > > European perspective on the news as well. :) You mean The Canary and Owen Jones's blog :)

Oh .. and for some reason I like some of the Irish newspapers - gives you a different perspective on Brexit.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mass hallucination - really? More true to say the > dam of mass cover-up finally wore thin enough for > decades of suppressed incidents to flood out! > > Surely with increased awareness around mental > illness in recent years we all realise how sexual > abuse and exploitation can ruin people's lives. > Trauma often makes itself felt a long time after > the event. > > I certainly remember plenty of inappropriate > comments and touching, and strippers in the office > for people's birthdays (in the morning!) in the > late 80s, and pretty colleagues being sexually > harrassed up to maybe early 00s (I well remember > the married head of legal who tried to make one of > his juniors agree to have children with him). It > went on for decades after attitudes and company > policies had superficially changed. Ml > > My own concern is that it feels fundamentally > misguided to judge what happened in the past from > today's viewpoint. It should be seen in the legal > and social context in which it is alleged to have > taken place - unless it involves children or other > vulnerable people, in which case fire away. I certainly believe most if not all of these accusations are true - but you have to keep in mind the possibility (devils advocate type thing). All cases need to be investigated and the accuser and accused given their rights. You're right about espoused values and real values in companies - they don't match even now. In the pub a lot of touching still goes on (in my experience) - one pub recently I felt it was human pinball :) Some people generally just don't like being touched at all though and they have that right too wherever they are.

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There better be, otherwise people are going to > feel that there is no chance for a fair hearing > for the accused. > > I broadly agree with Loz; new allegations are > emerging all the time and while it's of vital > importance that legitimate harrasment can be > reported, challenged and dealt with, I worry there > will be an automatic assumption that there is "no > smoke without fire", a phrase I have often used > thought is dangerous, and untrue. Mass hallucination (or whatever you call it) does exist Remember this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkney_child_abuse_scandal

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blah Blah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > She had to go. She is one of the most right > wing > > thinkers in the government and fiercely > ambitious. > > She won't be a silent backbencher. > > 'Thinker'. That's putting it a bit strongly, isn't > it? They were comparing her to her successor.

Guardian, Indy, Standard and Wales Online LOL Twitter just has to be used correctly (90% is rubbish but you get an idea how opinion is moving)

The Welsh First Minister speaking today (he was close to going too it seems) http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/carwyn-jones-meet-labour-ams-13873438 Not good all round there.

Dbrskh Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I turned around one night in bed at 1am and woke > my now husband up to tell him ?we should get > married!?. Half asleep he said ?yes! Will you > marry me??. Two months later we took ourselves to > the registry office and got married. A month later > we sent ?we eloped? cards to our families. No one > was happy they weren?t there but totally missed > the point about us getting married had nothing to > do with them. I missed out on a proposal and my > husband picking my engagement ring...but I married > the man I love. My sister had lived with her boyfriend for years and years (since she was 18 - she'll be 50 now) - last year I looked at her facebook - and just flippantly it said "got married". Assume it was for legal reasons and she didn't want any big thing made (I had to 'give away' my other sister and I didn't think I was that bad :) ).

Removing an actor from a film already filmed shocks me a bit (and not condoning anything Spacey did). Could we eventually use tech to remove an actors entire repertoire - erasing them from history.

Saw a US man propose on YouTube - first she throws something at him then she tries on the ring - doesn't fit she puts it on her little finger - he says "it's only the dummy one"

It's getting a bit West Ham Managerish http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-priti-patel-leadership-tories-make-or-break-month-cabinet-chaos-a8044981.html

What about chlorinated chicken conditions ? (as that'll be allowed if we do a free trade deal with US) http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/30/horrifying-conditions-inside-us-farms-that-could-supply-chlorine-washed-chicken-to-britain-6817059/

SpringTime Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dodgy policies and dodgy arrangements. > > Admire her in general for her ambition and > tenacity but she's screwed up massively here and I > shall look forward to the official statement as to > her dismissal (surely there must be one?!) > > She'll be back though... as long as she's not somehow in hock to the Israeli government (somehow that's my worry - and if she was/is - who else is).