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Oooh nasty - can't see ED though, but something out https://www.bt.com/consumerFaultTracking/public/faults/tracking.do?pageId=31

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If Banks want to operate in the U.K. Then they > should stay in the U.K. and employ U.K. > residents. > > DulwichFox They want to operate in Europe mainly :(

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > God, I hate this ridiculous argument that keeps > popping up in so many places that 'x% of people > DIDN'T vote for whatever', by somehow taking into > account the unknown views of people that couldn't > be bothered enough to get off their backsides to > exercise their right to vote. Don't care if it's > Trump, Brexit or what video to borrow from the > store (OK, showing my age there): not voting is > accepting and validating the result, whatever it > is. I remember a huge storm and stations in Central London flooding. Many people gave up and went to the pub. Also 16-18 year olds should have been allowed to vote - it's their future (not mine at 50) edit: that was Brexit - and when I knew leave would win.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 27% of the electorate is quite a lot more people > than put May in power or the Queen for that > matter. I still think he is an idiot though. I'm trying not to judge him before he makes his first big mess up. He might be lucky ... or he could be remembered like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_North,_Lord_North

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tis very good news, especially as parliament seems > to have to ratify the final deal. If it is > looking like a terrible deal and banks and other > major industries start looking like they'll move, > then MPs might find themselves under pressure to > not go ahead. > > Also, it leaves much room for the House of Lords > to cause quite a bit of slowing down of the > process. May does not want to go into the 2020 > election with Brexit coming to a bitter crescendo. > Even the amendments being proposed by the > otherwise-useless Corbyn might help to slow it > down. I still await David Milliband to come home (he doesn't want to live in Trumpland) and take over UK Labour. Maybe too tainted by Blair though ?

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As a leaver, I personally welcome this decision, > as once parliament pass the vote to trigger > Article 50, we should no longer have to hear > anymore bleating about the fact that the > referendum was only 'advisory'.... That'll go on for the rest of our lifetimes :) Blame Cameron if you want. As Sky said this morning no thought was given to what would happen if Leave won.

I'd hoped the devolved governments would get a say :( Can they take it to the European Court SNP saying they will introduce 50 amendments and cause trouble. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/article-50-latest-news-brexit-supreme-court-ruling-snp-amendments-a7543056.html

Angelina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Painful getting into town today - delays on > Victoria train and then overcrowding on the > underground. Possibly faster to get a bus :-( Train derailed at Lewisham apparently. I almost regret the standard nasty tweet to Govia - but no I don't :) Bet they laugh at the tweets they get.

Home compression equipment needed - with some kind of thing you can add to stop smells :)

apbremer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry but you miss my point totally. Brussels is > hugely undemocratic, expensive and massively > corrupt. The euro is just a German racket. The > whole rotten edifice is tottering. I'm afraid I don't have much faith in the UK establishment either. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/when-a-mafia-expert-tells-us-britain-is-the-most-corrupt-country-in-the-world-its-time-to-start-a7057686.html We just do it in a British way :)

apbremer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It just seems extraordinary to me, a mere ignorant > uneducated Leaver, that you are all exercising > your democratic rights to protest to try to > overturn a democratic decision by the British > electorate to rid ourselves of a hugely > undemocratic Brussels Juggernaut. Ironic,eh? As Trump would say, a movement takes years to accomplish. Why should remain give up forever and if they aren't, why should they give up now.

The one thing Trump has given us all is the empowerment to have a go back at him.

Steroids ?

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "identity politics is divisive nonsense that is > reaping what it sows in the US and, to a lesser > degree, the UK or certainly the Labour Party to > the detriment of us all" - discuss > > PS I've checked my privilege and me ... it's 15

alex_b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One thing that Virgin seem to have a huge problem > with is the reliability of their DNS servers (in > layman's terms the phone book of the internet). > It's fairly trivial to switch your DNS server to > point at GoogleDNS or OpenDNS. I've found that > this improves the reliability of my broadband > considerably. > > By way of illustration one of my machines at home > has been unable to access the internet for a > couple of days, after wasting a couple of hours > troubleshooting I noticed it was still using the > router for DNS, quick setting change and > everything's happy again. 8.8.8.8 :) is one of Googles DNS - easy to remember anywhere.

LauraHW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hopefully this will mean an end to the ridiculous > teaching of the metric system in schools. Who > cares if it makes far more sense and that most of > the world uses it. We managed an empire and single > handedly won two world wars with the imperial > system. Roll back decimalisation too Three penny bit will be back sharpish I'll make it so :)

miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Yep disparity is inevitable in a capitalist > > system, but the earnings of the super-rich do > not > > bother me at all as long as they pay their tax > (a > > huge caveat of course... I'm talking > > ideologically). What should concern us is > quality > > of life for the poor and vulnerable, and > ensuring > > there is no "cycle of poverty". > > Well I'm not bothered by displays of great wealth > either - if you take the long view, the trappings > of wealth of our age will probably seem as > ridiculous to our descendants as the day long > gorging on food practiced by feudal lords does to > us. > > We live in a system rooted in the accumulation of > wealth, but with finite resources. We believe that > we can participate in this economy and do well for > ourselves, and we'd like the opportunity to > accumulate wealth (which is why every side of > politics, Corbyn included, rabbits on about > opportunity, aspiration etc.). But on the other > hand, we also believe that kids shouldn't be > hungry, people should have a roof over their > heads, the holy NHS should remain "free" etc. And > the latter doesn't square with the former, so > politicians temper with things like top or minimum > pay, welfare state etc. > > Before the state started tempering with the > economic system, or trying to kerb its natural > tendencies, there was also a huge wealth gap > (Marx' 1850s that you mentioned through to like > 1930s-1940s), and since the state has stopped > tempering with the system (or freed it up a bit) - > the last 30 years or so - the wealth gap has > increased. People like us, who (I assume) work > fairly well paid white collar jobs don't feel the > pinch much - yet. But as many of our pensions are mucked up we need a second source of income for retirement - and that's where it's nice to have a bit of wealth.

Are you comparing Theresa May to a Prison Guard in an Aussie jail ? Watch out for punishment beatings.

REDD Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yep sorry people. I was a we bit drunk when i > posted this. Did not mean to cause offence. Its is > a good forum. > > RGDS When you get drunk and turn against everybody and everything :) I've never done that obviously

Frank Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi TheCat, > Of course life inside the EU also comes with a > whole set of challenges. But I don't know any > Remainer who is a afraid of a challenge. But > Russian Roulette is not a challenge ... it is > plain stupid. Theresa May's speech makes very > clear where her priorities are ... and close > international collaboration with your neighbours > is not among them. Rather she spoke of making > Britain Great again ... That is not a challenge, > that is merely short-sighted. Well, Theresa May is off to speak to the citizens of nowhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum Or maybe only poor people cannot be citizens of the world.

binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nigello Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Less confident? Less confident at what and than > > whom? > > The challenge of getting upstairs? Top deck on > the > > 176 is hardly the summit of K2. > > Sheesh and double sheesh! > > The gist of your post backs up what I said: > people > > can be selfish and stupid at the same time. > > It may be very hard to believe Nigello but some > people are less confident than others! Perhaps a > stretch for you to imagine that some people feel > anxious about being boxed in on buses. Some people > do worry about climbing the stairs when the bus is > moving (not that easy). Many people don't like > sitting at the top because of travel nausea. Some > people feel too tired to haul their belongings > upstairs for the sake of a short journey. Some > people don't like trying to rush down the stairs > before the doors close to get off. Many people > don't feel to safe on the top deck for a range of > reasons. > > I'm not saying that crowded buses aren't annoying. > It would also be nice to have more 484s in > operation (although, as stated, in comparison to > the p4 the 484 is like some luxury service). I was boxed in last night - you know when a group of young boys decide to sit facing each other across the seats in front of you whilst having a loud chat. I just smile and have no issue with that (my pet hate is strong food) - but I could see some people feeling scared.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TBF, there is a general reluctance of passengers > to "move down inside the bus" or ignore the fact > there are "seats available upstairs", so I am glad > of the strict voice asking they do so. > Next time you hear it, just look and see that > there are the usual sub-morons congregating around > the doorway/stairs (are they claustrophobic and/or > scared of heights?) who refuse to make room for > others. > Overcrowding is not good, but neither is people > being ignorant and selfish. I realised some time ago that a lot of passengers are rather scared to go upstairs - not sure why,

JW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The strike is suspended, so one train an hour > still instead of no trains. Lucky us! Southern have stated they're going back to a full timetable (next week) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38663331

Someones lost a fiver and found a pound

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, so in theory everyone can reach the top...do > you really see much sign of that in practice? > Capitalism must by definition always be a > pyramidal system. Not that I'd have liked > communism, Bill Bryson had a good quote around the > time of the Berlin wall coming down, something > like "Communism was repressive and dreary and soul > destroying, but it does seem a shame that the only > system humanity can make work for itself is one > based on greed, selfishness and inequality." > > ETA Reply to Jeremy We do seem to be moving towards a universal basic income for everyone system (well it seems to be being seriously considered). French (socialists) are the latest. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/universal-basic-income-ubi-france-presidential-candidates-socialist-monthly-all-french-citizens-a7530771.html