Strawbs

mmmm sport commentary.. Thanks MP but I think I'll leave that with you.. :))

Aga do do do - no idea who sang it though..

Any great ideas? Im bored crackerless, my boss is away, all my work is done, Ive read the forum about a billion times plus two other forums I am on.. Im lucky enough to be getting out at 5 today so how do I make the next 40 minutes fly!!??

No worries I am happy to help!! I also have a list which is redone about 4 times prior to packing.. Have moved countries 3 times in 4 years so Im a bit of an old pro at it now!

Im not sure I would find it disgusting (harsh words Crona!! ha ha) but a bit silly if you ask me.. I generally place all tops in one pile and bottoms in another. Shoes are all in bags so as to not dirty my clothes. Underwear is stuffed in to shoes and every other place it will fit. I always have a spare pair of clothes on the top layer so I can get to them easily. Mrs Strawbs and I last time we flew did the half half theory, half of mine in hers and have of hers in mine so as if one of our bags went walkabout we both still had some clothes..

Jaws and I would really love to come to the next one date depending, sounds like I missed a good night!! Will keep my eyes peeled for the next date decision.. I have a suggestion - Thursday August 21st? (that's my pay day >:D<)

@ *Bob* and Keef - I too cannot disagree with what you have said.. It is an unfortunate thing in Australia that generally the 'abbos' are not regarded at all (except a key 2 or 3 people in sport) and to be honest there are not that many around not because we dont want them but because they a) prefer to live within their tribe environment which is certainly not in the city of sydney b) they still do not have the educational structure that the whites have i.e. because of how remote they are so they are less of them in the workplace so that then also leads to less money so they are not living within expensive cities and c) there are a few of them (probably more than a few) that dont particularly want to hang out with the whites.. Redfern is a place in Sydney where alot of aboriginals live and unfortunately it is not a safe area for white people. Crime and unemployment are high and white people are generally not welcome. This cannot be said for the entire area but certainly for alot of it. Taxi cabs will not go there nor will the police some of the time! It is a no win situation. Whites dismiss the blacks but then the blacks do themselves no favours with sometimes how they behave and isolate themselves but then they say they are isolated by us and behave towards us in retaliation. Its an impossible situation. When the government changed in 2007 they issued an apology which most of the country was against as we very much have the view that we should not apologise for something we did not personally do nor did our father's generation but it was made anyway. Whites were up in arms (not all of them) and from what I can see besides mending some broken souls and hearts, in the 'living' sense it hasnt made a lot of difference. The tribes in the very remote areas are provided with medical help and education by the royal flying doctors service and community programmes, domestic violence is a massive problem amongst the tribal communities and in alot of places it is illegal to sell aboriginals alcohol so unfortunately they resort to drinking petrol which obviously doesnt help the situation at all as then more health services are required etc etc.. Honestly it goes on and on and on..

Correct Christian white folk who thought they were doing the aboriginal children a favour because they of course knew best *rolls eyes*

@DC - ok so Charles Balding from Bermondsey went to Australia in 1873 and MARRIED RachelColebull (aboriginal person) in 1875 and they had 8 children. She was born in 1857 and was taken from her parents and fostered out to white people.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If a white man got an aboriginal lady pregnant, > then the child would be taken from it's mother. > > Try the film "Rabbit proof fence", will make you > angry and depress you all in one sitting. Unfortunately it wasnt just limited to this it was also full aboriginal children that were taken away too. BAsically (and very basically) aboriginal children were taken from their parents and placed in to either homes i.e. like an orphanage or into the care of white families as it was believed that aboriginals did not know how to care for their children properly.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1/2 = one parent? > 1/4 = one grandparent? > 1/8 = one great grandparent? > . > . > . > 1/32 = one great great great grandparent was > aboriginal? I'm amazed there were any white folks > in Oz at that point! > > Blimey, that's some genealogy. > > Oh, and excuse my ignorance but what's the "stolen > generation"? My dad recently sent me my family tree hold on and I will let you know who and when x

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Why doesnt the Oz anthem have an equivalent in > Aboriginal? Perhaps the Aboriginals see nothing to > celebrate in the advancing of the Australians... Not sure this is entirely true.. Youre right on the anthem part, Ive done some research in to my aboriginal heritage and there certainly is no anthem I have come across. Their language seems to be tribe based rather than across the board i.e. english is the blanket language spoken by people in Australia and the aboriginal languages listed (certainly for the tribe that I came from) have words and symbols for things rather than a 'traditional' alphabet. Im 1/32nd Aboriginal and the aboriginal part of my family came from the stolen generation and we are all quite happy to see the advancement of Australians.. I guess it needs to be looked at as both black and white australians as just australians.. There is certainly some tension between indiginous Australians and white Australians but nowhere near the media hype makes it out to be..

Cant do the 3rd but may be able to do the 10th

Besides obviously petrol and a few odds and sodds to be honest I dont think things are going up.. Possibly vegetables and fruit etc but my shopping bills and spending money each month is remaining the same.. Obviously the housing market is affected but that is separate to the price of groceries.. If we continue to talk as if the sky is falling I think it literally will fall in and we will have a recession but I dont think we are in one!

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Australia Fair? > > When?s that? Is it on Goose Green? > I love it ?round here. There?s always something > on. Yes I'll be running a stall actually selling Anzac cookies, didgeridoos, kangaroos, hats with corks hanging from them and of course Tim Tams..

Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain - Donn Reynolds

Australian Anthem ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR Australians all let us rejoice, For we are young and free; We've golden soil and wealth for toil, Our home is girt by sea; Our land abounds in nature's gifts, Of beauty rich and rare; In history's page let every stage, Advance Australia Fair! In joyful strains then let us sing, Advance Australia Fair! Beneath our radiant Southern Cross, We'll toil with heart and hands; To make this Commonwealth of ours, Renowned through all the lands; For those who've come across the seas, We've boundless plains to share; With courage let us all combine to Advance Australia Fair! In joyful strains then let us sing, Advance Australia Fair! aaaahhhh Im just sitting back and basking in the differences..

NZ National Anthem God of nations! at Thy feet In the bonds of love we meet, Hear our voices, we entreat, God defend our Free Land. Guard Pacific's triple star, From the shafts of strife and war, Make her praises heard afar, God defend New Zealand Men of ev'ry creed and race Gather here before Thy face, Asking Thee to bless this place, God defend our Free Land. From dissension, envy, hate, And corruption guard our State, Make our country good and great, God defend New Zealand. Peace, not war, shall be our boast, But, should foes assail our coast, Make us then a mighty host, God defend our Free Land. Lord of battles in thy might, Put our enemies to flight, Let our cause be just and right, God defend New Zealand. Let our love for Thee increase, May Thy blessings never cease, Give us plenty, give us peace, God defend our Free Land. From dishonour and from shame Guard our country's spotless name Crown her with immortal fame, God defend New Zealand. May our mountains ever be Freedom's ramparts on the sea, Make us faithful unto Thee, God defend our Free Land. Guide her in the nations' van, Preaching love and truth to man, Working out Thy Glorious plan, God defend New Zealand. Maori Words E Ihoa Atua, O nga Iwi Matoura, Ata whaka rongona; Me aroha noa. Kia hua ko te pai; Kia tau to atawhai; Manaakitia mai Aotearoa Ona mano tangata Kiri whero, kiri ma, Iwi Maori Pakeha Repeke katoa, Nei ka tono ko nga he Mau e whakaahu ke, Kia ora marire Aotearoa Waiho tona takiwa Ko te ao marama; Kia whiti tona ra Taiawhio noa. Ko te hae me te ngangau Meinga kia kore kau; Waiho i te rongo mau Aotearoa Tona pai me toitu; Tika rawa, pono pu; Tona noho, tana tu; Iwi no Ihoa. Kaua mona whakama; Kia hau te ingoa; Kia tu hei tauira; Aotearoa

http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dk0H600EnZEg does that work??

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In honour of our favourite poster JRussel: > > Men at Work - Land Down Under I used to listen to this song on my walkman and sing it out loud when I was a kid in the park just up from my house in Empire Bay.. I particularly loved the line about the vegemite sandwich..I recently introduced Mrs Strawbs (Jaws) to it and she thought it was quite funny.. sorry no song to contribute as I am blocked to all sites at work.. :(

Well she has well and truly left the building now and I didnt even catch a glimpse! Am tucking in to a very nice glass of red wine though so it was worth it!

I am thinking about having a little drink for my 30th too but dont think it will be a house party, dont think my new landlords of two weeks would take to that too kindly... (td)

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> > Why do you even care? Are the Aussies and Kiwi's > particularly vociferous in their objections to you > cutting down trees? PMSL that made laugh out loud at my desk.. Strawbs <-- now drinking red wine out of a mug

the difference is is that they come from different countries with different cultures, backgrounds etc and regardless of where they are or their supposed behaviour they deserve to be recognised correctly as to what country they come from... You are rude to even think that you have the right to just put them both in to one pot because you think the difference is academic.. If you dont want people to post back 'kneejerk/humeruous' responses then dont allow your posts to sound like such a joke! (and by that I do not mean a funny joke)

@ B - your first pint at the next drinks is on me!