I loved your post Luddite > abut arent you glad you dont live in peckham like me where there > are at my last count 23 halal butchers , ten fish shops six pound > shops , and ten or more very cheap clothes shops Ah, but at least they're independent! I do take everyone's point about clone high-streets and would hate LL to become one, but would really like there to be more useful facilities. I ended up in the chain Sainsbury's to get the preserved lemons I was after a few weeks back, after the independent SMB Foods and the lovely Turkish place on Forest Hill Road failed to deliver. Both have a place and dismissing a shop just because it's a chain seems a bit of a broad sweep. While I'm on my soap box, aren't Winkworth, Acorn, Bushells, Ludlow Thompson and Haarts chains? Isn't Budgen's a chain? I'm glad of it when I want something last minute at 10:00 at night when the independents are tucked up in bed. Steps off soapbox.