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Right - I've found this "In most circumstances it is an offence, irrespective of the presence or absence of road markings, to park adjacent to a dropped kerb. Yellow lines The council may introduce waiting restrictions (yellow lines) in front of dropped kerbs in the following circumstances: Parking is controlled in the street for other reasons (eg. the street is within a parking zone, yellow lines are needed to allow sufficient space for vehicles to pass, or road safety). Circumstances would make it confusing to omit them (eg. if new yellow lines were being installed at a junction and there was a dropped kerb immediately adjacent we would probably extend the lines across it). Adjacent to new crossovers." http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/473/guide_to_parking/3069/dropped_kerbs_and_driveways/4 I'm pretty sure it's recently added as I searched a few weeks ago and all dropped kerb links weren't working . So it's an offence to park adjacent to a dropped kerb ,regardless of road markings ??? Who knew ? And the last sentence settles it really . I'm gob smacked . Your neighbour gets a dropped kerb and it becomes illegal for you to park next to it . And Southwark may ,or may not ,put yellow lines next to your neighbours new dropped kerb so that you know it's illegal . Wow . Anyone else surprised ? Or just me ?

So ,does Southwark require yellow lines that stretch across the dropped kerb AND across the frontage of neighbouring properties or not ?

" No matter that it will take out 3 other on street parking spaces in our street." Sidhue and Tandy ,so do the double yellow lines extend across neighbouring frontages or not ?

I and LS1234 have been raising the question of yellow lines over dropped kerbs for some time . Alarmingly LS1234 was told that they have to extend over neighbouring properties . http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1382228,1383070#msg-1383070 http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,336529,page=125 "LS1234 August 26, 10:49PM We have just discovered that Southwark have a new rule that you have double line any new dropped curb and then to 2 meters either side of it. Do you know anything about this? It would mean that most people would be putting yellow lines outside their neighbours houses and seems totally excessive! Would like to know your views. Thanks." I would dearly love to know the exact position on this .

good post Dadof4 .

Southwarks lovely "old maps " suggests that there were buildings where Acre Mews were built . http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect/southwark.jsp?mapcfg=Historical_Selection&tooltip=Hist_tips http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect/southwark.jsp?mapcfg=Planning&banner=planning&tooltip=Plan_tips The links won't endure and take you to the relevant road but you'll get the idea . If you compare the locations you'll see that the plot that Acre Mews now occupies was once a large L shaped building with another large building behind it and was never a pair of semi detached like its neighbours . Although it does seem that 2 or 3 of the Mews properties ( nos 6 etc ) are on ground that was once a garden ,so perhaps not much help .

I'm not sure " nerve " would be the adjective I'd use . Signed . https://www.change.org/p/heygate-estate-scandal-demand-an-investigation?recruiter=152746700&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

Wishing you better James .

Well I think we've knocked that one on the head Boab . Better save ourselves for the Scottish vote tonight .

I can see us both pacing the streets with a stop watch soon ! But I think for accuracies sake you need to be pushing a push chair and have a three year old in tow -) . Slow day like mine boab ?

Quite a big detour actually . Especially if the junction of Tyrell and Barry Rd is not your end destination . I think you shouldn't be posting in such detail - 50 yards etc - if you're not sure where roads are . And I wasn't asking for magic crossings everywhere . Just saying that I could understand why someone attempting to cross Barry Rd near the junction with Peckham Rye might prefer a zebra in the vicinty as opposed to the island crossing . Particularly if mobility limited or with children .

Yes ,Clockhouse end is my understanding as well . So if you got off bus at stop by pizza place/barbers and wanted to go down Tyrell Rd ,where would you cross ?

Tyrell Rd and beyond ?

Mmm ,let's think . If you got off the bus at the stop by Roy Brookes and wanted to cross safely over Barry Rd to the Clock House side you'd walk up the road to the zebra at Barrys shop and the down the road again to the Clock House . Or... get off bus a stop earlier ,cross by The Gardens and walk up to The Clock House . Neither route 50 yards in my book . Or ...wait for a break in the traffic ,watching for traffic turning both right and left into Barry Rd ,dash across to the middle ,hover with your push chair and child/ren in the middle of the road and repeat . The latter is doable and probably the method most people employ . But I can see why people would prefer a zebra to cross this part of Barry Rd . The island in the middle of the road is a bit of a giveaway to how busy this part of Barry Rd is .

The crossing near the cafe and Barrys is a little way from the bottom of Barry Rd ,especially with children in tow . I can see that people may well see the need for a crossing more or less opposite the Clock House .

No news on double yellow lines over dropped kerbgate ?

We have students opposte us . No noise disturbance . No banners but one Sunday morning we were once treated to the site of a young man clad only in underpants dressing on the forecourt ,boots thrown out window after him .

Emergency access is thought ,by Southwark planners ,to be less of an issue if only one or two properties are involved . Providing new fire hydrants is one of the ways in which the need for fire engine access has been overcome in some planning applications which have access less than the 3.1m requirement .

Thanks Rob for taking time to post . Confirms what I suspected .

" Hi James. Have you any idea how we fight this new rule on dropped kurbs? Thanks. " what LS1234 said .

But it's no good cramming housing into every available inch and creating substandard squashed housing . And this particular planning application looks very squashed with the access running immediately across several windows in the neighbours house . Some garden plots might be suitable but this doesn't look like one . And the OP was only asking for thoughts ,no mention of not wanting it .

That's a great response from Admin . Well done .

Kerbs or not - who should I contact at Southwark to get this issue of double yellow lines over neighbouring properties clarified ? Obviously you're having no success ,maybe I could get an answer out of the powers that be .

Or even curbs !

Any progress on clarifying the issue of yellow lines over new dropped cubs ?