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Agreed Miga. There is as much ignorance about the diversity of eastern europe (especially culturally) as there is about the middle-east.

John McDonnell as shadow chancellor doesn't well with me.

Why don't you email the project team directly? Their site info does say that they have the support of Southwark Council, and that Peckham Vision and others have got them to the stage they are at so far. As Southwark don't own the land however, I would guess that Network Rail would be the ones to seek planning permission when things are more developed design wise. They seem to be connected to the rights sources for a project of this nature.

Yeah, let's behave like 12 year olds in a playground and bully people for engaging in a local forum, especially those ones we don't agree with. Really dude?

How can they submit a planning application before they've done a feasability study? That's what they are crowdfunding for.

That is very true mlteenie, but a lot of people who stop in stores like lidl do so because they can't afford to pay more for food. It's a viscious circle.

I can't see why it can't be recycled. Engine parts are recyled and they are covered in oil and gunk. The Southwark recycling place off Old Kent Road would probably take it.

And clearly Parkdrive is more interested in insulting people than actually taking on board anything anyone has actually said.

I didn't vote for Sadiq and still think Tessa would have been the better candidate for beating Goldsmith (if he gets selected). But having said that, I do like some of Sadiq's ideas and he has plenty of time to campaign for the Mayoral election itself.

Both lidl and aldi are great. Either would be a great addition.

Parkdrive. The only reason the thread has developed into a discussion is because of the negative posts of a couple of people early on. The discussion has been well meaning and polite. And then you pop up, attacking someone for posting a reply to a question asking for information on Turkey's involvement with rebel armed groups, like ISIL. Their human rights record is one reason the EU has held off on inclusion. Of course they are not the only nation on the planet with 'issues' of that nature, but there is also nothing wrong in pointing out how that might contribute to the experiences or views of refugees or migrants, especially as Turkey is on the front line of escape to Europe. If you read most of the comments on this thread you'll find pretty much every one agrees with your view that Europe should do more. So chill :)

I think that's a bit unfair Parkdrive. All that LadyDeliah and others have tried to do is give insight into the many impacts of ISILs advance. Of course Hungary and Poland are behaving shamefully, and they are being exposed for it. What people may not understand however is just what is going on in the middle east. It isn't just ISIL at war, there are other rebel groups at play, backed by regional governments, all adding to the instability of the region and the displacement of people, both deliberately and by default.

That's sad to read Uncleglen :(

And to also say that this happens to elderly people through email scams etc who are duped into handing over bank details and causes great distress and sometimes hardship. So yes, more should be done to catch culprits rather than just saying 'the money is returned so it's ok'.

Pommie. We have something called a welfare system that is supposed to make sure no-one a)starves and b)is left homeless. This government have by their reforms forced people into both of those situations. It's a completely seperate issue to helping geniune refugees fleeing war. But there are people, journalists and social service and health officials continuously lobbying government to try and make them acknowledge the harm they are doing to our own poorest and most vulnerable citizens. It's falling on deaf ears. And yes I do find a kind of hypocrasy in that a photo of a drowned toddler shifts public opinion and foces a government response, when reports of 40 - 80 suicides and the death of 2500+ people within weeks of being found fit to work by ATOS (figures the government tried to hide) has resulted in no shift of public sympathy and no shift in Ian Duncan Smiths policy or thinking. But there ya go. I of course have great sympathy for both our own poor and refugees.

Good work Fizzy.

This is why Turkey can't be a member of the EU.

I went through this some years back. You must report it to the Police and get a crime number. You then take that crime number back to your bank and fill out relevant forms, cancel cards etc (if not already done). The bank should then refund you with the stolen money with six weeks.

Pommie, they'd been in a Turkish refugee camp for two years after fleeing bombing in their homeland. The conditions in these camps are not good, with new refugees arriving every day. If you take a look at a map of the affected areas, ISIL have moved through an area half the size of Europe. THAT is why we are seeing a refugee exodus that is the biggest since WW2.

It's actually the council contractor APCOA that issue the no tax clamps and then inform the DVLA (who issue the fine). APCOA will only tow the vehicle if it looks like it's worth something (i.e if they can sell it or it looks like the owner might pay to collect it). The abandoned vehicle notice just requests the owner to claim ownership. The vehicle can not be towed if the owner does get in touch. And if they don't, it can be sent to the scrap yard right away, therefore reducing APCOAs costs (ie no storage involved).

That's a good point and good suggestion DaveR. Maybe Eileen can make use of that?

That's interesting Loz and makes perfect sense. Because also, the father of the poor toddler had paid 5000 (whatever the currency is) to a traffiker to get his children safely accross the water. We need to take the criminals out of the equation, and taking refugees directly from centres would go a long way to doing something about that.

This is true but opposition is the way to establish a big enough involvement to have an impact on what does end up there, rather than only getting involved down the line when the process is much further along and more difficult to affect.

Confirmed my point above Steveo. Sadly it does take a tragic image to wake a lot people up. Shouldn't be that way of course, but that's how it is. But I also think Davic C and his party have been hypocrits. Now that the public mood is changing they suddenly have backtracked on their stance of not taking more refugees, something they were making very clear until that photo. They are not ill-informed, so they have no excuse. It's partly the job of government to raise awareness when making decisions for the right reasons, not to react only when the public might not like them in sufficient numbers.