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lol Jeremy.

Cameron will do anything to side with popular opinion, if it serves a purpose for him.

Yeah I've never needed a ticket to park in Lidl in Peckham. Maybe it's a two hour parking rule or something? Anyway, I wouldn't pay it. It's not enforceable in the same way that council parking tickets are.

I would say always give way to a pedestrian (even if they are in the wrong) personally. Not worth injuring anyone for the principle of right of way. And I would say the same to drivers too. People will always do daft things on the roads and some of those things may well be dangerous, but there's no point in endangering anyone in order to make a point.

I get honey from khan's on Rye Lane. ?2 for a big jar and it has a piece of the actual honeycomb in it, which is a nice touch.

If he was legit and at the wrong address he would have called the 'office' to double check the details?

Well it all gets stranger doesn't it? I think Dadof4s reposte is spot on. If Dulwichlad really did witness an assault that provoked the incident, then go to the Police. But it could be equally likely that it was a different incident, only this time mother and son gave as good back - and why not? A bunch of 12 year olds aren't as tough as they think, no matter what comes out of their mouths. Totally agree JohnL. There usually is a dominent ringleader with children, and others follow, which is why Youth Support Services and Police target ring leaders when dealing with anti-social behaviour.

Interesting post Dave. We too have seen friends move further out or leave London altogether, many of whom are public sector workers, who just can't afford to buy in London at all. When people start families, they expect to be able to find a secure home. Given there is no security in renting, the only option for security becomes either social housing or buying a home, both of which are more and more out of reach. We had parental help to buy our home 7 years ago (couldn't have done it otherwise), but it shouldn't have to be like that. What kind of city are we going to end up with if ordinary people continue to be forced out?

Sigh. Does every thing posted on a forum have to be so analysed? It's simple. The OP posted an event that most people would agree is awful and would leave most people questioning the environment that kids grow up in to behave like this. And some kids DO behave like this. Children that don't behave normally often have poor parenting and peers around them (and I AM qualified to say that). Dulwichlad notably (after making the effort to join and post) hasn't come back to defend his position. Again, it is perfectly ok to draw a conclusion from that. It's clear from his posts that he is trying to implicate the mother and children as having provoked that exchange. Well agin I'm sorry, but harassing anyone with that kind of language at 12 years of age is not defensible. And finally I believe that a report to the Police WAS made. I believe those Police contacted the parents and I also choose to make the conclusion that Dulwichlad is connected to those children or parents, until he comes back to say otherwise. Of course some of that is circumstantial. You don't need to point that out to anyone. But this is also not a court, it's a forum where people are free to mull over things posted. And my replies to you are based purely on your replies to me. No ulterior motive there (as you seem to want to imply). That's what usually happens in debates. If you challenge someone's view, they reply to you.

All rational conclusions to make though Azira. You yourself displayed your intention to play devil's Advocate in your first post {Stir}{Stir}. Some of us just choose not to play games when someone displays genuine distress at the abnormal behaviour of 12 year olds, behaviour that should be challenged if only for the outcome of the post above by Pugwash.

What conclusion would that be Azira? A police report in existence in case you doubt the OPs words perhaps?

But this is precisely what's wrong with it all. We bought a home 7 years ago, as a HOME. We have no intention of moving for at least 20 years. And I would expect our home to be comparable to whatever the market is at that time. London has this problem with people buying into growth, and therefore fuelling the growth. It's bonkers and hurts ordinary working people the most.

I'm not going to give Dulwichlad the benefit of doubt. He joined the forum today to post specifically on this thread. So has some connection to the offending kids. Just what that connection is we'll never know. Even if there had been provocation (which I don't believe for one minute there was), this kind of language and behaviour from 12 year olds is disgraceful. They are clearly not normal children. Most parents would be horrified if their children who behaved like that too.

Thanks for posting the pics Milk. It quite clearly is both stupid and illegal to ride motorbikes and scooters on this path.

Charles you are trolling and you know it. It's not funny, or even interesting. First you fail to even recognise that bikes and scooters are even motor vehicles, and now you seem to think it's ok for those vehicles to use public pathways. What do you think would be the consequences for the scooter rider if they had an accident (whether at fault or not) involving a cyclist or pedestrian? Any idea? Oh and here's what the law says on it..... Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 34 Prohibition of driving motor vehicles elsewhere than on roads (1) Subject to the provisions of this section, if without lawful authority a person drives a motor vehicle? (a) on to or upon any common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road, or (b) on any road being a footpath or bridleway, he is guilty of an offence.

HappyFamily, prices can not keep rising forever faster than wages. That's the flaw in thinking that leads to bubbles. There's only so many multiples of a salary a price can be before no-one can afford it. The Bank of England has stated that interest will start to rise at the end of the year (let's remember those rates have been kept artificially low to help recovery from 2008). Interest will have a huge bearing on the property market, esp for first time buyers.

Charles, scooters and motorbikes ARE motor vehicles. That's why they pay road tax and require insurance. They shouldn't be on a pedestrian/ cycle path.

Clamping is illegal Artful, but if the car hasn't moved for a couple of days (which is how it sounds) then I don't think that will solve the problem.

I agree on the SNP. They also failed to deliver on promises that got them elected to Hollyrood. They are riding a wave off the back of the close reference vote, but that wave will subside. So I don't agree that Labour are dead in Scotland at all. Cameron knew exactly what he was doing post the referendum election, because after all, the Conservatives had no ground to lose in Scotland. He's now paying the price. The hunting ammendment is only the start of defeats in Parliament for him.

That seems daft. Where's the common sense there? The Police ARE allowed to be helpful. It's not all about chasing hardened crims. If you can get a few friends to lift the back end and wheel it forward out of the way, then why not? You are not damaging the car by doing that.

So you pimp yours? Something like this maybe? Or how about? Apparently this bloke already has his. But I suspect ths might be you Louisa after one too many sherries ;)

I agree with you ???? but that's not what people are saying (so they are not delusional). They are arguing for a clear alternative from the other major party (which Labour still are), that's all. Of course it risks leaving Labour out of power but they are never going to regain power anyway if they don't get those Scottish seats back.

Just watched a BBC show on iplayer with the above name. South Yorkshire is apparently the scooter capital of Europe! Issues like safety aside, are they really the alter ego of the twin buggy? Some people even race them.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32247516 I did overtake one (on my cycle) at Elephant and Castle roundabout once and held my breath to see if he made it round in one piece. Apparently no rules on them not using roads.