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lol but plenty of them live south.

I'm inclined to agree Nigello but there are plenty of local groups that aren't predemoninently middle-class. Some of them are church and charity groups. Others are tenant and community groups. Even traders in Rye Lane have an action group. There are many ways to inform the whole community.

Great project but let's be brutally honest about the film - white and middle-class. Peckham is cockney, african, west indian, asian, chinese, turkish, young, old and that's just for starters. Needs an approach that reflects that.

I LOVE honest burger. Been to their Brixton outlet many times. Blenheim Grove makes sense though, with the urban arts scene there and the Student/ bar nightlife.

Let's ask ourselves, why did religions (faith evolve)? They evolved in two ways, in trying to address aspects of human nature that were viewed as destructive, and in trying to explain the wonders of the world that science hadn't yet explained. We can easily reject much of the latter and label those who ignore scientific evidence as ignorant (and this is what Dawkins attacks). But there is some value in the former. Nothing indoctrinates us more than advertising. There are billboards on pretty much every street corner and in every sitting room via the TV. So although I'm an athiest, I would be slow to reject all religion as BS (there are far more dangerous forms of brainwashing out there). There is a philosophy in amongst religions which is the reason there are foodbanks for people to go to (where would they go without that?). And most religions, not just the monotheist ones, demand giving to and feeding of the needy. Many religious festivals are based on some form of giving or forgiveness, which has it's sole aim in well being and harmony. These are not qualities found amongst the cold capitalists of the city and government. Materialism has never made up for a lack in human relationships, or a lack of community.

My wife assures me that in no way is ironing more pleasurable than the EDF. And she knows best :D

I think it does raise the issue of whether we want to genuinely provide decent quality of life for all or whether we continue to push some matters into the hands of privately run charities. Most charities start with committed people determined to change something for the better, but why does that still remain the case in 2015? I agree that failings can be fixed with a change in management. The closure of yet another lifeline for those it helped is just indicative of the way we are going as a government and society.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Spoken like a true Capitalist :) > Of course it matters. I know, let's have a state > owned company that makes profit on the back of Far > East sweatshops too... What sweatshops have to do with state owned utility companies I do not know. But seeing as plenty of private market corporations seem to get away with that then another defence of the poor ethics of the free market perhaps? We have an education and health system that are both state funded, so that EVERYONE can have access to education and good helathcare. And we have that within a global capitalist free market economy....shock horror! A healthy economy can be a healthy mix of ideas from several 'isms'. It doesn't have to be one or the other. These things are not about capitalism over socilaism (or vice versa), they are about recognising what is important for the mass and about also recognising that some things have to be people before profit and not the other way round. Need I remind anyone that the energy compnaies are under investigation for price fixing? I really don't understand anyone who uses socialiam, or the left, as some slur. You went to school didn't you? You've had to use the NHS at times haven't you? These things didn't exist at one time. And the outcome was awful.

It doesn't matter how the French produce energy, the fact still remains that a state owned energy comapny can trade internationally as part of the global free market and make good profit. I don't think for one minute that Corbyn will mean a huge enough swing to Lib dems to revitalise them. Corbyn may mean a slift shift in the type of people that support Labour, but they need that anyway after the shift away from them to the SNP and UKIP.

That's exactly it Jeremy. He IS referring to key infrastructure, because we subsidise the private corporations our key infrastructure belongs to, to the tune of billions each year, whilst they happily make profits. One of our big six energy compainies is EDF which is a STATE owned utility company of France. Imagine that! A state owned company that trades globally making profit for it's own state. This idea that nationalised business can't be part of the free market and make healthy profit is nonsense. What Corbyn is talking about is nothing like the post war nationalisation of industry and infrastructure (controlled more by unions than management at times). And there is a growing appetite for it, particulalrly amongst the young, who just see the cost of living spiralling out of their means and fail to understand why we are buying energy from a state owned company whilst having sold off all ours. Something fundamental HAS to change. I'm not sure Corbyn is the man to deliver it, but he'll certainly bring a whole slate of considerations back to the public consciousness.

Yes I watched that. Found it very interesting. I also find Hinduism more interesting than the three main religions too.

A temporary events notice would show up on the southwark register. There is none listed. But that would have been the solution, although for an outdoor event it would have not been allowed to go later than 8pm I think. I appreciate all those saying 'it's a one off and let it go', but there are also safety and insurance issues to consider. A license takes account of those things. The wedding party could have moved indoors in the evening, it didn't. Consideration has to run both ways. And looking at your posting history Mike, all YOU do is spend your time on here insulting others.

Hmmm, their licence seems to only apply for music events within the limits of the school, and to specific conditions. Is liability insurance rendered null in the case of a license breach?

Even if he goes full term, they will have to elect a new leader before the election. Voters will want to know who they are voting for. I'm not suprised young people are pro Corbyn. Cameron has nothing but more debt and even more unnaffordable housing in store for them. And the other Labour leader contenders are no better.

At least if Dawkins were PM he'd stop taxayers funding faith schools that teach creationism (yes they really do exist here).

That he gets hate mail tells you everything about the mental state of some religious people.

Yeah I've encountered a few working man's clubs like that too. Very scary.

Yeah I'm inclined to think the same. He may live to regret having made that declaration.

That can be the case. But most people of faith are harmless. Food banks are provided by a faith based charities for example. As for those that take their beliefs to a level of fascism, then we are dealing with a psychology that would believe in just about anything that empowers their sense of importance. Most faith is culturally nurtured through childhood as we all know and that for me is where the line between a gentle moral philosophy (ie to be giving, do good etc) and the heavy indoctrination of false absolutes (creationism over evolution for example) is a fine one and should be monitored better than it is.

I agree with all that and suspect there will be an internal establishment coup before we get anywhere near the next election. That's what I find despicable about the Labour party at the moment. The infighting in some desperate grapple for power. How do they think that looks to us? It's as though they've been thrown into blind panic by the election results, when in reality they should be focussing on making that slim majority as difficult for the Tories as possible. Cameron is facing many battles ahead, over Europe etc. That's also not to forget that the Tories will be facing their own leadership contest if Cameron holds to his promise to not run for s third term.

Seems their licence for music it to 11.30 only, a complaint would be fair. http://app.southwark.gov.uk/Licensing/LicPremisesGrantedDetails.asp?systemkey=831390 And these conditions too maybe? 845 - That after 20:00 Hours NO drinks are to be consumed outside the building (including balconies and terraces) 846 - That after 20:00 Hours other than for the purpose of entry and egress all doors are to be kept closed. 847 - That after 20:00 Hours all windows are to kept closed.

The only nationalisation he's mention is of things we heavily subsidise anyway, like the railways. And why should we subsidise private corporations so that they can pass on 'profits' to shareholders. We do so because we need that infrastructure and corporations know this. They are taking us for a ride. Meanwhile, Osbourne sells our profitable share in Eurostar and sells RBS back to the private market at a ?13bn loss. I can list other examples. On taxations he has said he would restore the 50p rate. He's said nothing about ordinary income tax. He has said plenty though about closing tax havens and tax avoidance schemes. Again, can't see anything wrong with that. The 70's had a general rate of around 33p per pound and a higher rate of 70%. It's ridiculous to claim the sheer mention of a tax increase to the general policies of the 70s.

Why does everyone assume a Corbyn leadership means back to the 70's? That's not the impression I get from him at all. What I do see from him are some suggestions for making the economy we have a bit fairer, and a bit more affordable for the many.

Also if you are a couple of tall stocky guys, sitting next to each other becomes a tight fit. I'm not stocky but I am tall and it's more comfortable to sit over the edge of the seat rather than cramming my knees into the limited space in front. I can understand asking someone if they would move if there are no other places to sit together, but asking someone to move because they are in your favourite spot? Don't know what I think about that. It doesn't strike me odd that you (Sue) asked one to move, but it does strike me as odd that you can't understand why they didn't understand why you'd ask them to move when other seats were avaialable. It gives a signal of your right to that seat being more than theirs.