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Yep, couldn't be more condascending if you tried AM. Missteak, it IS the same people spewing the same 'we know better than everyone else' crap. Banter? Nah, just the ramblings of a very small number of people who actually think someone gives a hoot what they think.

Oh here we go again. Aquarius Moon accusing people of being trolls and fake. This was also MY first experience of the Aquarius Loon Davis. And then there's this ???? person who thinks everyone that disagrees with him is a left wing loony. The only people who think fox hunting is a class war issue are it's supporters, who like to label opposers as townies and plebs, if they are upper class, and townies as having no understanding of the countryside, if they are the countryside aliance, and loony lefties if they are ????. Any idea that dogs ripping a living thing apart, after chasing it to exhaustion, is cruel, is an alien concept to those who support fox hunting. So it just has to be an 'us and them' class thing right? And I don't even know who appointed AM as an authority on who genuinely cares about animals and who is only 'ptretendin'. Contemptuous indeed. Fox hunting and dog fighting. What is the difference? Both are banned for the same reasons and rightly so.

Glen, you know nothing about the persoal circumstances of that guy apart from his ASBO for nuisance begging. Newspapers always get the facts right obviously? He may well have/ had drug or alcohol problems. He may also have mental health issues. ASBO's are served as a last resort, when other efforts to mediate haven't worked. The article implies greed - earning 50k a year, living in a 300k smart pad etc. Well he doesn't own the flat, so what does it matter what it's worth? I doubt the 50k a year is accurate either, I'm sure he doesn't keep written accounts of his proceeds from begging. I've seen a few people begging in Rye Lane that clearly have mental health problems. Finding a solution to the behaviour of those people is not going to be easy. Arrest and fines are least likely to have an effect. A fine just means you have to beg more to pay it right?

Yeah really misleading headline there, conveniently overlooking that the flat is owned by a housing association!

How very noble of you. Let's arrest and fine the poor guy who probably already has nothing anyway.

BT are a major ISP, so it needs to be sorted.

Apart from those in essential services. No time off for them.

Yep BT here too. And my connection is fine now.

Yep same here fox. Have had to use a proxy IP to get connected. Same other issues last week for me too. Could it be cloudfare? seems to have been a problem since that was added.

I had the problem a few days ago and I go through a BT router.

I was blocked last night too, same as above, but seems fine now.

Like I said, I found it no inconveniece at all to get off my cycle and walk along the pavement for all of 40 seconds. I don't see why other cyclists could not do the same.

The best moment is watching the kids go to bed excited on Xmas Eve, and then munching all the stuff we leave for Santa (which of course includes Jack Daniels for medicinal purposes). That guarantees a hazy hungover fog by the time the in-laws arrive for dinner!

Yeah cyclists should get off and walk along the pavement. I do that and it takes me all of 40 seconds to do so. Just selfish people at the end of the day.

Every year they write a song that suits who they want to win, better. Fleur will go on to sell loads of records, just like all those others that outsold their years winning acts. It's better not to win sometimes. I do like Ben's voice but that song is shite.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cliquey thread of the year award..... .....this one :D

It's also a way of saying only politicians should have opinion, and we all know what kind of government that leads too. I thought that guy in the audience was a bully to be honest and yes I think Brand should have pointed out that most of the people that campaign for and drive change are ordinary people, not those in power.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/12/bbcqt-ukip-carver_n_6315826.html?utm_hp_ref=tw I did wonder.............

ffs did you even bother to read the OP Monkey? The guy changed direction to follow her. She wasn't describing a man walking behind her, but one that was walking towards her, and as he passed tried to engage with her, and then having past her, changed direction to follow her. I think that would creep most people out on a dark road with no-one around, let alone an isolated female.

I read it as worse than that sedm, that the guy was coming towards her, walked past, and then turned round to follow her. I think Sarah was extremely sensible in seeking out the nearest safest option, by knocking on a door.

He did Alan, which made him look a bit like a fish out of water anyway.

I don't always agree with him either ????, but that's not really the point. He raises debate around important issues, that HAVE been swept under the carpet in the leaning towards the economic right. And it's refreshing that he's a relatively young left winger. Totally agree El Pibe. Farage is not a scoialist in any form. He may pertain to speak for the common man, but he is free market capitalist Tory through and through and cares even less for hard won rights and protections. That he manages to mask all of that either makes him extremely clever (and dangerously so) or those who support him a bit stupid. Careful what you wish for comes to mind on that one.

Owen Jones is the person to do that ????. But at a People's Assembly rally in the summer in Paliament Square, it was Russell Brand, who said nothing of any use on the stage, who made the press coverage (what little there was of it), not the brilliant speech by Owen Jones and others. That's for me where RB does more harm than good. To say there isn't an issue based narrative for the left isn't true. Corporations make increased porfits year on year while the value of wages they pay goes down. Ken Loach gave a great speech recently in which he said that most ordinary people just want an education, a job, healthcare and a pension. He is right, that hasn't changed at all. But corporations, banks etc don't care if you have any of that. That's a huge problem. And where government has failed is in safeguarding a balance in the economy that can deliver those things. The left would argue for public ownership, where workers are invested in the company they work for. The right argue for unregulated free markets where profit supposedly trickles down to take care of everything. We know that neither models do what they promise. Somewhere in the middle is where we should be (failing a complete change of system and the things we value within it). So there is a role for the left, in reining in the onward march of free market capitalism, just as there always has been.

That's a very good point too Loz.

I don't know enough about it to know if those things are true Mick. Aren't local authorities tied into a decent homes scheme of improvements? Or am I wrong about that?