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You mean the only good accountable telly is home made anarchist bullsh*t? Lots of morons doing pieces to camera in their grotty front room? Utter crap from delusional idiots. This is the kind of quality you find on Youtube. I thinking it's just called dumbing down. [irony] It's like my eyes have been opened. I can see how much better this must be than any TV stations we have today, certainly knocks Auntie into a cocked hat. Why would I want to watch Blue Planet when I could be talked at by AllforNun for three hours from her back bedroom? [/irony]

It may be worth putting a description of them on here - other people may have seen them returning home, or their parents might, God forbid, be on this forum!

GQ? Whoopsy ;-) Subs to The Week, Private Eye and Focus. Regularly pickup New Scientist, Nat Geo. Occasionally Time and Newsweek. I don't see the point of printed newspapers, so haven't touched them in years. They need to set up some sort of micro-payment credit system so they can pay the journalists - maybe 0.1p a page (about what they get from papers after paying for newsprint). Maybe that's what we should do? Someone want to join me launching an online payment system for the press? That'd f*ck Google News too, which'd make everyone happy: carpet-baggers. Online it's the BBC, Grauniad and EDF many times a day, occasional forays into The Daily Mash and The Onion. Occasional use of Facebook and Linked-in, mainly for work. Very little else.

She'd fail the pencil test wouldn't she?

Ah, you shoulda had white gloves and those strange springs around your biceps to keep your cuffs clean.

I'm a yuppie, and I can't remember. Better than being a Smegags

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Moving the goalposts again. What TV stations do you think are accountable? Just for once AFN, I'd like to hear what you think is good?

Ominous? Hardly. Just daft tw@ts.

Well said TLS. It's no surprise that AFN's view involves hitting someone, or changing the subject. I'm only surprised that a grown adult continues to behave in this way.

AFN, You quote a 78 year old embittered has-been as your biggest fan? Gumbo. What TV stations do you think are doing a good job?

AFN, you now want to make this an argument about population? It is a facet of your debating style that you try and move the goalposts in order to score simple-minded points. The question for this thread is value for money. This is about the investment made by individuals, and the return they receive. The evidence is that the UK fee is lower than elsewhere, and it results in a product that is demonstrably better than elsewhere. At 38p per day, it's lower than the cost of a tabloid newspaper. I think if we were honest (which you're not) we'd have to say the BBC represented better value than that too? To compare this website, in all it's glory, with the BBC is facile. To claim this website is 'better' is moronic. I recognise that there are elements in the population who would burn books, destroy farms and shit on ATMs. There is a place in the world for them in Zimbabwe. I'm pleased that they don't have the option to influence the media landscape in the UK. There appears, as usual, to be nothing on your agenda sheet except to sneer at anything that through your envy, indolence and bitterness you couldn't create yourself. I hope I'm wrong, I would be embarrassed for you.

It took me less than a minute to prove you wrong AFN UK license fee: 139.50 GBP NHK (Japan) annual license fee: 171 GBP DR (Denmark) annual license fee: 301 GBP NRK (Norway) annual license fee: 214 GBP As usual, absolute nonsense is the order of the day in Nunhead. What I don't understand is why you make stuff up, usually abusive stuff. What possible joy can you get by being so unpleasant? Is it a disorder?

Throwing stones at buses again AFN?

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Well there is that...

Lousia making pizza dough, this we need to see!!

For a 75 kilo man on a 15 kilo bike that would be 22,000 joules burnt up in rising up through the elevation (in addition of course to the normal energy burnt up on an equivalent level road). Since most of us are more familiar with calories (4.2 joules), that's 5,255 calories. However, in food terms we actually talk about kilocalories, even though we call them calories. So think of it as 5.25 calories exercise - approximately the amount of calories contained in two seedless grapes.

I don't miss it that much ;-) Holidays are way more flexible here, in the last three months we've been to Borneo, Malaysia, Laos, Thailand and India - all for about the price of a weekend in Paree...

Google Earth suggests that the Clockhouse end of Barry Road has an elevation of 24m (78 feet), and the church end has an elevation of 49m (160 feet). I'm not sure exactly how accurate these measurements are. However, if this is right, then in addition to the 82 feet rise the incline has made the road 9.7 inches longer. F*cking outrageous!

I used to live on Crawthew Grove, the new residents of my house actually post on the forum, but I don't think they know it's me!

I'm not sure that it's actually a 'Lordship Lane' orgainsation that delivers. Probably the range of landlords and premises along LL has a limiting effect on rents, with the result that costs are kept in line with the kind of profits that are generated by independent restarauteurs against the number of covers they can fit in the place. I'll be betting that entrenched interests and limited retail space has kept Village rents quite high. This has meant that restaurants need to cut costs in other areas to keep overall costs down, and the only ones that can do this are chains with bulk buy deals...

7) Live in Singapore... ;-) I just like keeping in touch with me old mates!

Possibly, depends what channels you watch. Do remember that Sky does very little investment in original programming. It pays a fraction of production costs to TV studios who recoup overall expenses by syndicating the programmes globally. The only studios big enough to do this are American. If you left TV to the likes of Sky and Setanta, then you might as well be living in the US, you'll see no different. The BBC does great original programming: drama, documentary and news gathering. The BBC's natural history output is quite simply the best in the world. America doesn't do natural history programmes because of religious issues. No BBC, no education.

Hmmm. Good point. No, it doesn't. However, a quick bit of Pythagoras tells me that in order for 0.78 miles straight line turn into 1 mile with the incline, then the end of the road would need to be 0.63 miles (around 3,350 feet) higher than the start. That would give us an incline of around 40 degrees. Given earlier evidence that coasting with the car out of gear at 30 mph only retains the existing speed, then I reckon it's not quite that steep. ;-) It kinda rings true, as even Hampstead Heath is only 440ft above sea level, so the church would need to be almost ten times higher than that. A veritable cliff. That's not to say that it isn't. Indeed altitude sickness may have contributed to some of the road's reputation.