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:) You might be doing a tribe thing there alice? I think to statisticians (or number monkeys like me) your 'class' is just a data hump on a graph. For others it's a world view, and how they choose their mates, or their enemies. For Louisa it's how she chooses which exhaust pipes she puts bananas down.

Yeah RosieH, it's the double down pull/slice that means you have to pinch the top and knock it out on your neighbour. Etc.

It doesn't explore history, because it's irrelevant. It explores capacity, aspiration and intent. You are simply who you are. The only interesting question is what decisions you will make. Louisa and El Pibe doctoring the results to present the personality they would be if they weren't who they are is largely neither here nor there. Their decisions will be made broadly according to self interest. That self interest may be enlightened or myopic. Research doesn't care. As individuals you are completely unpredictable, as data points you become completely predictable. If 70% of you are into homeopathy, it doesn't matter whether you as an individual are, I simply get a 7/10 hit rate for my mental twit juice.

You know that dry shavers put the smeg in the shaver yes?

I don't really have the temperament or rhythm in language to be poignant, but I hope that I can convey something here... When I was growing up in the 70s and 80s I was conscious of the fact that ideas that I found depressing or destructive would have their day with the people that espoused them. Tebbit, Scargill, possibly Thatcher or the wasted Major years would all pass. They simply did, they passed in and out of my existence like a bad shop or a playground bully. As I moved into the 90s, I became conscious that there were people with noxious convictions of my generation who would persist throughout my existence because they were my age. They wouldn't pass, simply because they would die only when I did. These people were of my generation from cradle to grave - they would always by messing with my world, ruining lives through a corrosive persistence and a career choice and social structure that allowed them column inches and social influence. My solace was that it meant that those people whose existence I cherished, who nourished my life through their imagination or aspiration, would last just as long. This was a thrilling and timeless support. As Vicana pointed out, I didn't know anything about them, and didn't want to pursue them through book signings and festivals. It was enough to know that they put finger to keyboard every now and then to give me something to read and enjoy. It is depressing that when Banks gives his last hurrah, I'll end up with one less on the best side of the balance.

This sounds absolutely right. The majority of broadband third party resellers are effectively sub contracting share of BT fixed bandwidth. New suppliers tend to 'loss lead' by buying more bandwidth than they have sold, giving major speed advantages to early buyers. As later buyers come in, the sub contractor doesn't buy any more bandwidth - to recover the loss lead - and all subscribers suffer. You SHOULD complain. This is subject to regulator oversight and the complaints are valid.

It's a bit confusing. The 'long' test was the one used to create the 7 classes, it's from 2011 It gave each respondent a percentage score in terms of economic, social and cultural activation. These results were analysed, and the outcome was 7 clusters of individuals which gave rise to the broad social groupings. If you want to imagine it visually, then first think of a normal line graph of results whe you see peaks and troughs. Where lots of people are very similar (a peak) this would be called a social group. However, this study had three different criteria so it was 3D (like a landscape) and and the clusters were 'hills' rather than flat peaks. It demonstrated 7 particular 'hills' which were classed as the social groups in the survey. For example there was a clear 'middle class' group in terms of social and economic similarity. However, because there was a third criteria 'culture' it was clear that some of these middle classes were highly culturally activated and some not. So these were split into two different groups - the traditional and technical middle classes. The 'short' test was a very simple way to see which of these hills you are nearest to, and hence your social group. There's no need to do the long test.

Crikey, you can be a right boor sometimes UncleBen. Personal attacks on RCH contribute nothing to either the debate or East Dulwich apart from advertising your own unpleasant streak. You're just stood on the sidelines chucking mud and smirking like a Billy no mates 14 year old. Try playing nicely. It doesn't make you look clever, just a bit sad.

"RosieH there's no excuse for violence. The best way to get your own back on a "sexist man" is to spit in his dinner." That's because in Louisa's worldview women remain in the kitchen ;-)

Hee hee I looked up the 'technical middle class' and it seemed to imply that it was the same as the 'established middle class', but without any culture! *snorts with laughter*

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Ah! There's a full survey? Property wasn't key - I rent, but still came out Elite for the reasons above.

So you aren't really Traditional Working Class, Louisa? Well who woulda thunk it?

'Elite' Hahahahahaha Although it seemed to predicate that judgment on the basis that I like museums and galleries, know CEOs of startups and teachers equally, and like to have BBQs at home. Hmmmm.... I don't think this is really designed for expat lifestyles.

It speaks to the very core of what make us human d_c If anything good could ever come from an apocalypse it could only be a rebirth, to learn our lessons and start chastened but more committed to the great sum of human existence... ... and then we'd be surrounded by that horrible shade of blue - that desperate, committee born celebration of human inadequacy, of convergence on mediocrity, of our pathetic averageness in the face of soaring spiritual ambition. If that weren't bad enough, imagine having to die, and the last sparking of your synapses highlighting that soul crushing cyan.

That's a real pisser Trish, I'd be furious. Surely there must be penalties to carry costs and wasting court time etc.?

TE44, 100% of the police force is paid for by British citizens - does that mean that they won't arrest you for a crime? No. This is an example of how your logic is flawed and you're listening to people with stupid ideas. It is right and correct that the policing of the chemicals industry is paid for from the profits of the chemical industry. Why should chemical manufacturers gets rich, whilst taxpayers like you (who typically have to count every penny) have to pay to stop them breaking the law? THINK about it! This doesn't make it corrupt, it makes it sensible. The HSE is a publicly accountable body that is normally criticized for being 'nanny state' and 'too restrictive' - are you seriously claiming that it is now too soft? This is really silly stuff.

"It's just bad manners and sloppiness of character" Hee hee - there you go with that patriarchal public school Latin teacher approach. Why should they have to fulfil your requirements to your timetable in order to present themselves to you for appraisal? Is this what you really resent? That they are somehow disrespecting you by failing to prepare to your exacting standards? Have you lost your authority? Does it infuriate you? ;-) Why should the efficient use of otherwise dead time to perform ritual tasks not fill you with anything but admiration?

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As he pointed out, he's a footballer not a politician. I'm sure he has very little idea of what fascism means, and probably made his statement based on a loose jumble of ideas about authoritarianism and national pride being a good way to sort out Italy's disheveled political process. Given that the party that won 25% of the vote is refusing to govern, who can blame him for getting frustrated? I'm not aware that the 'liberal' press had any more to say about it than the Daily Hate - so it strikes me that the premise of your question is wrong. Secondly, the purges you describe we're Stalinist, not communist. I'm sure if he had announced he was Stalinist that he would have achieved similar coverage (as a 'communist' he would probably have been considered an ineffectual fool rather than genocidal).

I can see that TE44. It becomes paranoid when it's irrational. As someone already pointed out - everything you touch, smell, taste is poisonous. It's a matter of quantity. For example, drinking too little water will dehydrate you and kill you, drinking too much water will change your electrolyte balance and kill you... So you will always be able to find online quotes 'proving' the dangers of anything. If you can't find that proof, then you can always claim it's a cover up or everybody is lying. But that way insanity lies. There are certainly examples in the past where materials have been found to be toxic - this is an example of how our efficient and capable our scientific community is. There will be examples in the future too. It is simply NOT possible to prove anything is safe - we can only prove that they are unsafe. Knowing all that, it is irrational to jump to conclusions based on the ramblings of cowboys and conspiracy theorists about what is or isn't good for you. If, like Louisa, that leads you to call for the banning of leather and rubber on public transport when there is zero evidence of a health threat then you're not a modern day messiah, you are simply crazy. That's what paranoid is.

I was under the impression from posts passim that first mate lived just around the corner? Don't know if that was right or not.

Goes weird in the last couple of episodes - but great until then.

Spoken like a true revolutionary squince :D In the Mills & Boon romance of international socialism the dark satanic mills of the 1850s are still rolling, and the Trots are still there to save the proletariat from the robber barons.

Netflix is your friend :)