BrandNewGuy

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So if it gets listed as an asset of community > value... what next? Community buyout? Who's going > to run the place? Who's going to be responsible > for booking bands/comedy/etc? It already is listed as an Asset of Community Value, but Fuller's have taken the lease anyway. However, live music is integral to the ACV, so they now want to move the goaplosts. I quite like Herne Hill and spent a very nice afternoon/evening in the Off The Cuff Bar by the station a couple of months ago.

... unless charging for bulk waste collection creates a great increase in fly tipping, which entails a greater cost to the council. So maybe the saving's not a saving at all. Did the council attempt to calculate the impact of their decision? 'Savage cuts' is no excuse for a possibly ill-thought out policy.

panda boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I find it odd because I am a member of the London > Wildlife Trust and it is the first I have heard > about it. It is also the first time Southwark > have mentioned them, and indeed in the context of > the plans being designed in conjunction with > them. There's a reference here to repesentatives of the council meeting with LWT about the council's plans a year ago: http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/dont-build-graves-on-our-woods-says-group/public-meeting-over-grave-plans-for-woods/ And the LWT is involved in many planning matters in Southwark, but in an advisory capacity only. If the council feel as though it's acting with the planning laws and regulations, there's not much the LWT can do. But I think it's valuable that they're there putting the case for wildlife. I'd be fairly sure that the council's replanting plans will have been done 'in conjunction' with LWT too. Why would they not be?

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nigello Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > I am hoping that posher fast-food places use > some > > of their profit to buy from excellent suppliers > > which care for their animals (before they do > the > > opposite of caring by slaughtering them). > > > It's probably a discussion for another thread, but > I lived on an organic farm for a while which had > cows, sheep and sometimes pigs, all out in the > fields and very much cared for by the lovely > farmers, who also had a mill producing organic > animal feed. > > I too always thought it odd that the animals ended > their lives by being slaughtered, however when I > thought about it a bit more closely, I realised > that if it wasn't for the farm they wouldn't have > had lives at all. > > If people didn't eat meat, there would be no > animals in the fields in our countryside. Well, given we're big net importers of beef and lamb, people could halve their meat consumption without much of a dent in land given over to livestock in this country. The UK imports 240,000 tonnes of beef and veal per annum (while exporting 90,000 tonnes) and imports 84,000 tonnes of lamb and mutton per annum (while exporting 70,000 tonnes). But of course most meat eaten in this country is chicken and pork, very little of which is reaered outdoors.

Hadley Property Group is holding an exhibition at Dulwich Hamlet Football Club to set out their proposed plans for the stadium and other developments on the site. The exhibition times are: Thursday 25 Feb 4pm ? 8pm. Saturday 27 Feb 11am ? 2pm. For info, here are HPG's last set of proposals from the end of 2014 ? it's going to be interesting to see how similar or otherwise the next set of plans are... http://www.championhillstadium.org.uk/content/our-proposals

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Weekend train service from East Dulwich is a joke. > Always has been. > > And people wonder why we have cars... Jeremy, this was the first Sunday for a long while that there have been engineering works. The weekend services could be better but they are not a joke. Some poeple (not you) think it's too difficult to check if a train is running normally (get the app and it takes 30 seconds) and then damn the whole service because of it. And as I pointed out recently, East Dulwich didn't used to have a weekend service at all...

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BrandNewGuy, > > You need to get this from the context: > "In some areas, the designation is subdivided, or > additional, more local designations are also used. > For example, in Greater London SINCs are divided > into the following grades:[3] > > Site of Metropolitan Importance for Nature > Conservation > Site of Borough Importance for Nature Conservation > (Grade I and Grade II) > Site of Local Importance for Nature Conservation" I'm aware of that. Still no mentions of "Grade 1 SINC woods".

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That is a sub-designation: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Nature_Conse > rvation_Interest There's no reference to "Grade 1 SINC woods" there.

Its SINC designation is as a "Site of Borough Importance (Grade I)". "Grade 1 SINC woods" is not its designation. Sorry to nitpick, but these details are important in the context of designation, protection and conservation.

If the EDT can do burger and chips for a tenner, so can any other local pub. And ?5.70 for Fourpure's Session IPA at 4.2% is over the top, even if it is a craft beer. I'm happy to pay more for getting more, but this is past my limit.

HopOne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BTW, I have not and will not lie on this thread. I > find the constant accusations of lies against > anyone wanting to preserve mature trees to be > objectionable frankly. The SSW campaign have > raised many important issues that should be > debated in a mature manner. Am beginning to > wonder whether that is possible on this forum. Hahaha! That's rich. So because you wsnt to preserve trees it gets you out of any accusations of lying? And SSW debates the issue in a mature manner? Hahaha! I can only repeat what civilservant said: "a general point - whoever is running this campaign has completely subverted their own cause. I have no idea of the rights or wrongs of whatever it is that they are trying to do - it's all drowned out by the shrillness of their voices - and I don't feel i want to even bother to find out. Because all I can hear is the sound of harassment, spite, misinformation and, oh yes, obfuscation. It's a complete turn-off."

Thanks, Foxy.

Still no confirmation of the news?

Oi! The Shropshire Bedlams, for one, do not drink shandy and are pretty severe with their sticks. Not a hanky in sight. Border Morris is pretty, er, rustic, shall we say?

Big fan of Ryley Walker - saw his first London gig at The Windmill with about 12 people there :-) Laura Cannell's also playing next month at the Telegraph Hill Festival: https://www.facebook.com/events/936586959750137/

And this new one at Fulham Palace looks very good: "Caught by the River Thames is a remarkable new music, arts and nature festival. Bringing together a truly inspirational gathering of bands and brewers, authors and artists, thinkers and drinkers, Caught by the River Thames will be part gig, part literary gathering and part nature symposium. Over two days, it will bridge the previously un-spanned gap between psychedelic high-summer rock?n?roll concert and Springwatch. It will unearth archival London audio-history and provide poetry in the total serenity of a Victorian chapel; play host to jump-up party music from the four corners of the world while holding a low-impact, locally sourced Ten Mile Beer Festival." Low, Beth Orton, Sun Ra Arkestra, Super Furry Animals and more... http://www.caughtbytheriverthames.com/

A 'conservation area' is a very different thing from a local SINC - a Site of Importance for Nature Conservation. The latter "do not have statutory protection (unless they are also SSSIs or LNRs), but local authorities are expected to take account of the need to protect them in deciding their planning and development policies". I imagine that the Council will say that their subsequent replanting etc takes that need into account.

El Presidente Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Penguin68 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Actually, it's a very good idea if it's taken > up > > by those who otherwise wouldn't exercise. > > > This is exactly right. And even then the cost > benefit of a programme like this is much more > complex than simply saying it will reduce > pressures on the NHS. Running or walking round the > park would have the same effect. > > Making things free is good PR (as evident from the > largely uncritical welcome here). But is not a > sustainable policy at a time when councils have > less money to spend. It's not to see it's not a > nice idea with some value. But it's about > priorities - ultimately I think it takes resources > away from other services that are better value and > more important. But is the cost that great? It's not much more than the loss of revenue that would have accrued during those hours under the current regime. Yes, running or walking would also be beneficial, but in the same way simply providing libraries doesn't get people reading ? 'nudging' them by means of reading schemes, book clubs, live readings etc does. Which is how I see this scheme. And even good ideas might also be good PR :-)

Hence the free provision proposed. Then no excuse :-)

Indeed ? it's younger poeple they're after.

Either head to Trastevere (the 'left bank' of the Tiber) to avoid the tourist traps, or the Testaccio district south-west of the Forum, which is gentrifying but still 'working class' with lots of good places to eat and drink. The good thing with Rome is that if you're not in the expensive or touristy parts of town, pretty much every restaurant/trattoria will be fine ? otherwise they'd go out of business :-)

As the article said, the contract is due for renewal/change at the same meeting. Watch this space...

Maybe, but the Council has made health and well-being a priority for the borough, which can only be a good thing. How it works in practice remains to be seen, of course, but I support the principle that people shouldn't have to pay just to keep fit.

Well, East Dulwich to Bond Street, say, is 7 miles in about 40 mins (via London Bridge).

"'Free swim and gym' was one of the flagship pledges in Southwark Labour's 2014 election manifesto. A pilot scheme offering free access to leisure facilities for under-18s and over-60s was introduced last year. Next week Southwark's cabinet will rubber-stamp the arrangements to extend free swimming and gym access for borough residents aged 19 to 59 with effect from late July this year. According to a report to be presented to cabinet by Cllr Barrie Hargrove, the council will offer free access to gym and swimming for all Southwark residents all day on Fridays and during the afternoons and evenings on Saturdays and Sundays until closing time. Southwark Council officers who live outside the borough will also be eligible for the offer. In his foreword to the cabinet report, Cllr Hargrove cites the swimming baths opened in Grange Road by Bermondsey Borough Council in 1927. "Built in this part of London under the guidance of Bermondsey MP Alfred Salter, he was later heard to remark by responding to complaints by his detractors about the cost of this initiative that he only wished he could make the use of the swimming and bathing facilities free for residents," wrote Cllr Hargrove. "So I cannot overstate the degree of pride I feel on helping to lead on this initiative being delivered by Southwark Council to provide free access to swimming and gym facilities in our borough." The launch of universal access to free swimming and gym use will be timed to coincide with the start of the school summer holidays at the end of July this year. The cost of the new scheme has been built in to the council's new contract for the management of its leisure centres. The contract is currently held by Fusion and a new deal is due to be approved by cabinet next week. Last week the council confirmed that The Castle ? the long-awaited new leisure centre at Elephant & Castle ? will open in April this year." http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/8634