BrandNewGuy

Cookies? Butter, egg, flour, sugar and vanilla.

Milk, cream, eggs, sugar and fruit or flavouring of your choice. Will that do?

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Which ingredient is muck BNG? > You've got your standard ice cream, plus the > flavours for cookies and vanilla. Soybean oil? Vegetable fat? > What's your problem? And, God bless, what are you > getting so angry about? There's no problem. I thought I answered your condescending comment in a straightforward way, but hey ho. > Bizarre. Right.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, but why does anyone really give a shit? A philosophy which has a worthy history, but in this case it's because the OP brought up the subject...

Ben and Jerry's have that residual sheen of 'coolness' like Branson's Virgin operations. Clever marketing, same old crap.

Huguenot, I know perfectly well what goes into ice cream and it's not all that muck. I'll stick to Italian gelati, thanks.

The India Club on the Strand next to King's College is unspoilt. Table, chair, jug of water, plate of food. Sorted.

Ben and Jerrys Cookie Dough ice cream ingredients: Ingredients: Cream (27%), water, condensed skimmed milk, sugar*, wheat flour, brown sugar*, free range egg yolk, milk fat, soybean oil, egg, vegetable fat, cocoa mass*, fat reduced cocoa powder*, vanilla extract*,molasses, stabilisers (guar gum, carrageenan), salt, natural butter flavouring, cocoa butter*, natural vanilla flavouring, natural brown sugar flavour with other natural flavourings, emulsifier (soya lecithin), coffee extract*. Muck.

civilservant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mandeer - an Indian veggie wholefood place that > served some of the best samosas in London in a > basement on Hanway Street And fantastic shrikhand for pud. I also miss the Hare Krishna Curry House at the end of Hanway St. Wonderful patra and a little waterfall in the corner lit up with fairy lights...

Don't eat the yellow snow...

Yeah, you had to become a member, which entailed giving them a quid and they'd give you a card and ask you to sign it. Very louche, but brilliant for a late-night tipple.

The Nell Gwynne's still fairly unspoilt but busier than before. The Troy Club (Hanway St) shut a couple of years ago when the lovely lady who ran it (whose name escapes me) passed away.

Pay In Blood = Bob Dylan

Ideal Store on East Dulwich Grove. Looks deserted but it ain't. They're very friendly in there and dug out the right battery for my ancient watch and fitted it while we chatted about the cricket.

"... a passion for cooking..." Oh really? "... a passion for self-promotion combined with a mild interest in tiresomely trendy cuisine..." more like.

Where does one sign up to be a POSH TOFF? I do believe I 'want some of that' as the young people say...

Agreed 100%

You haven't shown why people "have to steal food". You've shown me that it happens. I don't have a "proposal", though any food solution would have to reflect two big factors: 1. Rising basic food prices across the globe, which were the main immediate cause of the "Arab Spring" unrest and riots elsewhere in the world. Those prices are going up again... 2. Phenomenal quantities of wasted food because of our complex system of food production and distribution, and the demands for convenience and choice.

But isn't there a difference between using a food bank because budgets are squeezed and walking into the Co-op and taking loads of meat?

People have been sleeping under cardbpoard boxes for a long while, alas - long before it's "got so bad".

woodrot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Is it now ok to steal food, maybe things have > > got > > > so bad for people that they have to > > > > No and no it hasn't. > > > No and yes it has Show me why people have to steal food because it's "got so bad".

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just want to say that when I was talking to some > of the protesters, who were mainly middle aged > women as Bellenden Belle has stated, I didn't hear > or see any of the racist placards or shouts > mentioned above. > > I'd be interested to see some evidence of that. > > The pecking order of immigrants mentioned above is > exactly what I think is happening in Peckham Rye, > plus the fact (from one of the shopkeepers own > account) that people who used to give other Asian > shopkeepers trouble didn't understand that they > are Afghan and always fight back. > > That is fair enough, I would never advocate taking > crap from anyone, but it is my understanding that ... > the Peckham Rye shopkeepers have taken the tacit > approval of the police as permission to continue > to inflict violence on black youths as a whole, > which is out of order and needs to be stopped. "... on black youths a whole..." Really? Or just those youths that get into an altercation with them? That in itself would of course be undesirable, but to suggest they're in a war against all black youths is ridiculous hyperbole.

Greengod Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it now ok to steal food, maybe things have got > so bad for people that they have to No and no it hasn't.

Charging for name-changing is part of the price you pay for cheap fares. Otherwise an enterprising punter could just buy up bargain discount seats and attempt to sell them on later. Putting a name to each bargain seat ensures that doesn't happen. And in my experience Easyjet can be frustrating (online check-in and bag drop is no such thing - you still have to go through the long bloody queue), but Ryanair are a nightmare.

But I'd argue industrialisation was only possible because of the one-off (if centuries-long) possibility of exploiting cheap highly concentrated energy in the form of fossil fuels. Unless you regard those as limitless, I don't see how these game-chaning solutions can be endlessly engineered. And I repeat that no civilsation has gone on for ever.