Anyone who has posted more than 3 messages on this thread (excluding the original poster) is hereby excluded from the Badger / MikeSE22 friend auditions. You know who you are. 6 pages? Seriously? The debate was fun. The whining and diatribe less fun. But loved AnnaJ's attempts at mediation and the sprinkling of humour (and excellent photos) supplied by MP and posse. BTW - in case anyone has the urge to brand me homophobic - am a lesbian (alas no kids, but open to offers). And surely cannot be a heterophobe as I used to have a friend in primary school who was straight (not any more, mind, but there you go)...