Mick Mac

Ok Bob, But we are not talking about whether KFC have made a boo-boo - I agree it seems clear they have, as it has gained them adverse publicity. But is it genuinely offensive? Or are people searching for something to be offended by. I agree that it is possibly racist to suggest all west indian people like fried chicken, but that does not make it automatically offensive. "All west indian people are nice" is possibly racist - but probably not offensive.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If 'throwing a banana at John Barnes' is in the > premiership, then 'placating back people with > fried chicken' is probably somewhere in the second > league. > > 'Ill-judged' is a good description. I'm not sure Bob - throwing bananas was the visual accompaniment to the vocal monkey chants at football grounds and both had disgraceful racial connotations. Who does not like fried chicken? and who should find that offensive anyay.

jollybaby Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I didn't think it was offensive either - I think > there may have been an implication that the fried > chicken went down particularly well as the crowd > was West Indian but I didn't take that as any more > offensive as giving pints of Guinness to an Irish > crowd, or tea and sandwiches to English > supporters. > Perhaps pints of lager to English supporters would be a more appropriate racial sterotype to end that paragraph JB. Tea and sandwiches, much too complimentary.

I'm dead chuffed Hal. :))

Actually Loz - i believe i am right in principle - to suggest a whole race or nation have the same positive or negative attribute is racist. Therefore to suggest all west indians (or worse all black people) either all like or all dislike fried chicken is potentially racist. To say some like it and some do not like it is,strictly, the only non racist answer. However this ad is not racist as it makes no such statement - but it allows you to think it if you want to be offended.

can you remind me (bored on slow bus) Mean is the average? Median is the middle result if placed in order? Mode is the most popular result? I think its coming back to me but who knows may all be wrong.

You see i dont know whether west indian people like fried chicken or not so thought id ask the question. Then i thought through the possible answers : Yes they do - (that is potentially racist) No they dont - (that is possibly racist too) Some do, some dont. This is the only safe answer and yet manages to not really answer the question at all, so i decided not to bother asking the question after all.

*on train home and thinks quick pint of guinness in castle sounds very appealing*

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's a silly stereotype about WIs and > chicken but I would have interepreted the > 'difficult situation' as WIs slaughtering Aussies > at cricket. But maybe that's just wishful > thinking! Probably right PGC.

Will the Gooners go within a point of the top tonight?

Its ended... http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/IGS/IGS565/IS693-008.jpg

I think the reference to being in "a difficult situation" needs more explanation than the act of giving out KFC. What does this statement mean if made by an white Australian surrounded by black West Indian cricket fans? As for giving out KFC - Is fried chicken popular in the West Indies? I have no idea. I think people would be over sensitive to be offended by that part alone. But "difficult situation", I'm not sure what that is supposed to be getting at.

Jah Lush Wrote: > > Point is Mick none of them WERE shocking. I > thought he was on very good form this time round > without resorting to shock tactics and highly > amusing too. Agreed Jah. (I was referring the his whole person, rather than just the recent reincarnation)

Mamma Mia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- the very lengthy > thread discussing how much he is missed shows how > many supporters he has. Mark tells me (previous page) that those who like him are in the minority. But I was surprised to read that. I wonder who the people are that report his posts, and how much they themselves contribute to the Lounge and the forum. Is it a case of infrequent posters, who themselves contribute less often, depriving the Lounge of a regular contributor? The reported messages clearly cause Mark/Admin lots of work which is unacceptable. But you could say that the people doing the reporting are creating that work. Some of his posts are clearly intended to shock, but I'd liken reporting a post to "telling teacher".

Goodrich def open. I dropped kids off and seems business as usual.

I hope you are working hard rosie! Remember just one hour for lunch....!

I think I'll tell my wife I am going to walk to work (she will be impressed) and go to snowball fight/pub instead.

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I understand Mick Mac, and to be honest I'm not > easily offended so I'm not really a good yardstick > to use. The minority issue is one we take into > account (not forgetting those who say they like > him are a minority) but the forum's meant to be > fun and useful for East Dulwich and it's looked > after for being that. When it becomes a pain in > the arse to run because someone consistently > offends people in the Lounge then they have to go. > The amount of effort it takes to warn him, > investigate his posts, explain that there have > been complaints, ban him, let him back, warn him > again etc etc (9 times last year) really makes > running the forum frustrating. > Fair enough. Cheers Mark.

Don't think that changes anything - would be interested to know what their job requirements are though - are they purely oblidged to look for shoplifters or to deal with more extreme issues such as fights in store.

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The "report this post" link is for people to > report offensive posts so Admin and the team can > act, Of course, I understand that Mark. And if it causes you extra work and aggro then of course that is a bad thing and you alone decide if he is worth the aggro. Also if his comments are so bad that they bring down the reputation of the forum, then that is not worth it either. My point is that some people are sensitive and easily offended and amongst 12000 users there are going to be a lot of them. Its easy for those people to get their "minority" objection across by reporting threads. It does not necessarily give a true reflection of whether the average forumite would find him offensive. If on the other hand you or the moderators find the posts offensive then obviously that is a good reason to ban him. Just explaining my point a bit better, not asking for you to change your decision. Thanks.

Good point Quids. The moral is - if you insist on introducing your kids to alcohol give them Stella not Bordeaux.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had to sit at the Bloomsbury Theatre this week > and watch Johnny Ball (Johnny f***ing Ball!!) lost > the plot and rant (not argue or outline) but rant > at how C02 emmissions were as nothing compared to > beetle farts (or some such) FFS > I think the Bloomsbury Theatre is nice though.

Lets play that competition that we all played last year: Who will be the most dedicated citizen and walk furthest in the snow to please our employers.... [sean was last years winner I think - I on the other hand stayed in bed with a slight sniffle - I don't like work and I don't like snow either]

Yes....eh...I think so. I guess he might not be your cup of tea Monica?

Will the Indian Vegetarian Restaurant do me a meat option if I ask nicely? If not, can I have a right good whinge and annoy the people I'm with?