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FairTgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I cannot recall any occasion on which I have > ever > > heard a shopkeeper (including family members!) > or > > taxi driver say anything in favour of any > proposed > > change to traffic management. Not yellow lines, > > not red routes, not the congestion charge, not > > ULEZ, not CPZ, not school streets, and not > LTNs. > > Not in Dulwich, not anywhere else I've lived. > > Perhaps this is a result of my own confirmation > > bias. > > > Definitely in favour of timed closures for school > streets. So there you go, you have heard one. Every day a new exciting experience! How would you feel about Melbourne Grove being a school street?

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > first mate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rahrahrah Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > would also make it super easy to get to Herne > > Hill > > > for Thameslink services. > > > > > > If people could hop on a hire bike and leave > it > > at > > > the station, it may also have a positive > impact > > on > > > car congestion along EDG > > > > Sadly, seems bike theft is on the rise and > making > > all day parking at station secure enough > possibly > > not realistic, also only limited space outside. > > People can use folders though and take them > into > > work. > > this is why a hire bike scheme like Lime or > Santander would be great (you don't have to worry > about your bike being nicked). They have them in > nearly every other part of the Capital, except > Southwark, where they only operate in the north of > the borough. Not entirely true: Lime coverage is pretty much a rectangle between Peckham, Harringay, Ealing and Putney. There are some chunks carved out (presumably where councils have prohibited street parking?) and a couple of lumps added on. But there is plenty of London that doesnt have Lime service.

How about an axe throwing range? That's very fashionable atm

Good point - they should just make them permanent now instead of trialling them, I agree.

You can usually look up its licensing conditions on the Southwark website. Some times they say something about indoor and outdoor spaces. Sometimes conditions will refer to the plans but IIRC those aren't always downloadable. When I've emailed the council licensing team in the past, they have been very responsive.

I cannot recall any occasion on which I have ever heard a shopkeeper (including family members!) or taxi driver say anything in favour of any proposed change to traffic management. Not yellow lines, not red routes, not the congestion charge, not ULEZ, not CPZ, not school streets, and not LTNs. Not in Dulwich, not anywhere else I've lived. Perhaps this is a result of my own confirmation bias.

If an ambulance driver doesn't know their way around the neighbourhood and drives down a street that doesn't lead where they think it does, then yes, they're going to have to chuck a uey. When the closures are made permanent, it's easy enough the make the closures in a way that allows emergency vehicles to pass over them. See for example the proposed design for the top of Aynella at the Library.

There has always been traffic and a set of traffic lights there.

"This is nothing short of discrimination." What kind of discrimination, specifically?

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole too much, but are you saying you live near a tennis court now and the sound of balls being hit and bouncing is annoying, or are you saying that you imagine it would be annoying to live near a tennis court?

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not sure the council cabinet reshuffle is > going to help. One of the new appointees has the > title Member for Low Traffic You never know - it might be like calling the person responsible for bombing other countries the "Defence Minister".

Commiserations to you both. It's sickening. Any glimpse of the thieves? You should keep checking Gumtree for a while - my uncle actually recovered a bike when it was listed for sale six months later! The seller was fairly dodgy but probably not the initial thief.

You're not wrong, Sue, that social distancing is a good thing at this time. However, in terms of preventing COVID spread among the youth, I don't think standing around in the open air would be a bad thing for kids and the youth to be doing. If we chase them away from there they'll be down the pub, crammed into someone's bedroom, or on the bus/train to skate somewhere further afield - all of which is more risky.

I'm surprised to hear tennis balls being described as particularly noisy!

richard tudor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How did the car hit the wall without taking out > the signpost? Presumably it was heading north and hit the wall at an angle.

"Southwark's aim is simply to force cars out of Southwark as they are owned by kulaks and oppressors of the poor...it's a long game the apparat is playing, no doubt." What I like about this conspiracy theory is that it requires adherents to believe that LTNs are covert class war waged by the Stalinist residents of Court Lane. I look forward to the LTN/antivax/antimask/secret lizard people mashup theory which all of this is presumably building up to.

Does anyone smell it again tonight? Surely no-one has lit a wood fire on an evening like tonight's. It smells like burning rubbish.

"Why not head for the Attenborough 'what we need is far fewer people overall' remedy" TBF with 64,000 deaths a year due to toxic air in the UK, what you're describing is the status quo. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/12/air-pollution-deaths-are-double-previous-estimates-finds-research https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/air-pollution-smoking-deaths-compare-a8818851.html

"Unfortunately, Southwark Council seems intent on listening to lobbyists from outside the area, and a vocal minority who personally benefit from road closures, rather than the majority who live and work in and around Dulwich." This is completely made up xenophobic rubbish - that shadowy OUTSIDERS are imposing things on the right-thinking stout yeoman residents of Dulwich. It's an assertion without any evidence, and about as reliable as the suggestion that "thousands" of people were demonstrating against LTNs. There are reasonable people who have reasonable objections to the traffic changes - but there's an increasingly unhinged conspiracy theorist wing that's progressively losing the plot. "cabby just told me that the reason the side roads are being blocked is because Sadiq is extending the Ultra-Low Emission Zone up to the North and South Circular boundary " Cabby talking conspiracy theory bollocks shocker. There's no point in closing roads well inside the South Circular in order to save money on cameras along the South Circular - for obvious reasons.

" I think a civil engineer would be best placed to try and look at traffic reduction measures without the interests of individual roads coming into play. " That's exactly what has happened and has been happening for many years!

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2012/03/23/why-bicyclists-are-better-customers-than-drivers-for-local-business/

> A couple of times I've even had other cyclists > lean on me as I've rounded a bend. This makes perfect sense and definitely happened.

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rahrahrah, > > I think your emphasis is wrong. The priority > should be to improve and invest in public > transport. Cycling too but emphasis should be on > the first There's no material improvement in bus transport possible without removing other vehicles from the road - but look at the moaning about making Lordship Lane bus lanes 24 hours. Even Bakerloo line construction will take a decade - the tube isn't coming to Dulwich any time soon.

"Thinking about it more, maybe it's time for me to move back up that way" 90% of RBKC's schools are located in areas of illegally high levels of pollution. You're welcome to their fantastic road network. https://airqualitynews.com/2018/02/14/kensington-chelsea-backs-ulez-extension/

Yes - if there's one thing West Londoners like to brag about, it's how much they love living under the Westway and how there's no traffic!