Dogkennelhillbilly

", it?s why 2200 people have signed the e-petition on the council?s website" ...because a bunch of cabbies on Twitter who hate Sadiq Khan and speed bumps have signed up to it. They couldn't give a stuff about air pollution or the quality of Dulwich residents' lives.

> Your post makes even less sense than the OP > describing music as 'beat music'. I'd expect that > kind of description from some odd, drunk, clueless > aunty at Christmas when they overhear my techno > music. Beat is for Sonny Bono.

What I like is the prospect of OneDulwich - entirely unqualified in traffic management and environmental monitoring - bickering over pollution measurement methodologies.

I used to commute that way. It's possibly irrational but I don't really like to go through Burgess Park at night alone. In normal times, it's quite easy to bunch up with other cyclists (esp if you're heading south and get caught at the traffic lights by the BMX club).

"the monitoring has been half-hearted at best," How do you get to that conclusion?

"We are nearly 3 months into the DV road closures and nothing is changing " You don't know that. You need data. The data hasn't been published yet.

"already crowded roads" 🤔

"Wow, is that really true?" Probably not. I wouldn't believe anything just because some geezer on a forum said it (including this).

"Cars use roads because that is what they were built for, pavements are for for people." Roads have been around much longer than cars! Most of East Dulwich's roads were built decades before the Model T was even invented. The Plough was a coaching inn. Traffic patterns have changed radically since then, but also in the last ten years. Uber, Amazon and their imitators have radically increased the number of journeys being taken. It hasn't "always been this way so shut up". What we are seeing right now in London is the consequence of trying to move millions of vehicles along streets not designed for the density of population or car ownership, and with too many people focusing on whether they're ENTITLED to drive along a street whenever they want instead of whether they OUGHT to. And that's why we are ending up with hard rules.

Shrieker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you think that is 'really cool', you must have > had a dull life so far. > > Still, sounds like you might not be the type to > object to festivals on the common, which is always > a plus. > > I must ask though, what is 'beat music'? Ha ha ha - when the troll gets trolled!

Metallic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It occurred to me last week that many of the > cycling families taking their children to school > won't have time to do it when they have to start > their own work commute again. It will be back to > unwilling nannies and au pairs round in SE21/SE22 > until it gets too wet and cold, and dark. NB this is a theory you've invented entirely in your own head.

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, perhaps one or a handful of residents > supported by pro CPZ campaigners from outside the > area. My only point is that the ?interference? of > outsiders charge cuts both ways. Except for the fact that the "charge" was entirely invented by opponents to the LTN in the first place. It's a conspiracy theory!

What high street are you on about? If they're allowed to use the back garden, there's not going to be any trouble from the council because it's going to be a very short conversation.

So will all the stuff about "local residents should decide, not outsiders" be binned now that London tax drivers are bulking out the petition? It was quite a strong OneDulwich talking point before.

Interested to hear how the conspiracy theorists are going to reconcile "LTNs are driven by outsiders" with pushing the petition out to taxi drivers and groups from other areas on Twitter!

CPZs kidnapped Shergar.

"All these stories of people cycling to the gym, or the cafe - nothing to do with real life" Yes. No-one outside Dulwich Village goes to gyms or cafes.

"You can't walk down Lordship Lane without hearing people complaining about the road closures" Your experience may be different from other people's here. You are somewhat of an 'enthusiast' on this topic...

"Local businesses need all the help they can get right now, not grief from the council." ...and local residents need all the help they can get right now, not grief from businesses.

Ceausescu would not have approved of the poor spelling and alignment.

They did, didn't they? Jarvis Rd has a gate to the Charter School campus.

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FairTgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I cannot recall any occasion on which I have > ever > > heard a shopkeeper (including family members!) > or > > taxi driver say anything in favour of any > proposed > > change to traffic management. Not yellow lines, > > not red routes, not the congestion charge, not > > ULEZ, not CPZ, not school streets, and not > LTNs. > > Not in Dulwich, not anywhere else I've lived. > > Perhaps this is a result of my own confirmation > > bias. > > > Definitely in favour of timed closures for school > streets. So there you go, you have heard one. Every day a new exciting experience! How would you feel about Melbourne Grove being a school street?

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > first mate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rahrahrah Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > would also make it super easy to get to Herne > > Hill > > > for Thameslink services. > > > > > > If people could hop on a hire bike and leave > it > > at > > > the station, it may also have a positive > impact > > on > > > car congestion along EDG > > > > Sadly, seems bike theft is on the rise and > making > > all day parking at station secure enough > possibly > > not realistic, also only limited space outside. > > People can use folders though and take them > into > > work. > > this is why a hire bike scheme like Lime or > Santander would be great (you don't have to worry > about your bike being nicked). They have them in > nearly every other part of the Capital, except > Southwark, where they only operate in the north of > the borough. Not entirely true: Lime coverage is pretty much a rectangle between Peckham, Harringay, Ealing and Putney. There are some chunks carved out (presumably where councils have prohibited street parking?) and a couple of lumps added on. But there is plenty of London that doesnt have Lime service.

How about an axe throwing range? That's very fashionable atm