Dogkennelhillbilly

Sometimes things are none of our business and it's vulgar to be a nosey parker.

Oh God not this shit again. 4 years you lot have been moaning about a side road being closed and nothing is ever good enough.

It's open later on Friday nights too, and is a nice little spot that serves alcohol

This is, of course, complete bullshit, as anyone who actually reads the OP can tell. https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/352811-unbelievable-destruction-west-norwood-marble-fountain-demolished/ You should get some kind of award for this comment. The crashes are too regular but also not regular? Brilliant. This is Olympic- standard sealioning. Guaranteed gold at Los Angeles 2028. 🥇

Absolutely. So far, we have had a load of toss about whether 30,000 is or isn't "tens of thousands", whether a weekly occurrence is regular or not, some rubbish about how it can't be careless driving if you didn't intend to hit anything, and at least three different attempts to resurrect unrelated arguments from other threads. It's all bad faith pedantry. Hard to know whether it's intended to distract from the substantive issue or just hot air.

= an acceptable pay off for having motor vehicles?

If I'm using the settings correctly, the crash map from the last 5 years at the West Norwood location in question is pretty striking. So many crash icons it almost obscures the junction...

"The term ‘road accident’ exemplifies society’s tolerance of road danger. Too many still do not hold drivers accountable for their actions, implying instead it was a matter of chance. By using the word ‘accident’ – society is saying that there is nothing that can be done about these deaths and injuries, and they are an acceptable pay off for having motor vehicles. Planes and trains do not have ‘accidents’ – they crash." https://www.roadpeace.org/working-for-change/crash-not-accident/

In 2021, the last period for which data is available, someone in Southwark was injured in a hit and run crash almost every day (351 per annum). The number of people injured in hit and run crashes in London doubled between 2011 and 2021. Every day, 2 of those injuries are fatal or serious. But maybe none of these hit and run drivers were careless or dangerous drivers either. Maybe they were all taking evasive action to avoid a pedestrian walking into the road whilst staring at their phone - you just don't know. https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-01/Hit and run the escalating crisis on London roads - January 2024 Caroline Russell Report.pdf

Annual outbreak - clocks going back + some teenage boy psychology that's beyond me. Police work hasn't stopped entirely. SNT organised more patrols and visible presence until the group responsible was arrested.

7 storeys + a service floor is the same as 8 storeys without a service floor. It overlooks a school playing field. No-one is complaining about the existing building or suggesting it has rUiNeD tHe NeIgHbOuRhOoD

...and this time last year the Safer Neighbourhood Team organised exactly that when there was the annual outbreak of this kind of robbery...

Maybe it was aliens. Maybe it was a false flag black op by the Marxist-Globalist London Cycling Campaign. Maybe it was caused by masked Sadiq Khan when he was throwing custard pies in the face of innocent London drivers as part of the War On Motorists, and a nun who was driving a minibus of donations at 20mph to an orphanage (a puppy orphanage!) was blinded, had to swerve, hopped the kerb, and smacked into a stone memorial so hard it broke into three parts. Or maybe it was the usual combination of a dickhead driving too fast and too stupidly.

There is a spate of kid-on-kid robberies this time of year every year. It's as regular as the clocks changing or the leaves falling. Usually it's after school as kids are walking home. Often it's same little group of robbers that keep going until they (almost inevitably) get arrested. Very unpleasant for the victim. It should always be reported to police. I'm always happy to criticise the Met - but my impression is that the Community Safety Teams (beat cops) have always been very responsive to this kind of issue. It is worth speaking to them as well as just 999/101.

You don't usually end up with bits of car and lumps of stone fountain sprayed across the pavement with careful and safe driving... I've searched online and can't see any news reports or Tweets etc it whatsoever - although plenty of other reports about other serious crashes along that same stretch of road. Perhaps I'm just overlooking the reports or using the wrong search terms. Perhaps it's a sign of how normalised road violence is that this is an unremarkable event. 🤷

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Truly a sign of #southwarkderangementsyndrome when you misunderstand how a spreadsheet works and immediately leap to the conclusion that the council is engaged in an anti-poor leaf-clearing conspiracy.

Heber Rd primary school is surrounded by houses. Dulwich Wood primary school is surrounded by blocks of flats. A block of flats faces onto the back of Kingswood. Alleyns wasn't shy to put up portakabin classrooms directly opposite the houses on Hillsboro Rd for years! Meanwhile we've got the Dulwich Society objecting to construction that is "visible"...

The existing student accommodation on Burrow Rd (a couple of streets away) is 7 storeys tall + a service floor. No-one has their knickers in a twist about that building. In any case, we have a housing crisis. We can't carry on with the "norm". That's what got us into this mess. If we are not going to build dense on ex-industrial sites overlooking a train station, then where are we going to build more housing? On playing fields?

That attachment isn't working for me. Or maybe it is working and you've just got access to my DNA through a virus I downloaded. Either way I don't see a statue...

Totally bizarre narratives being pushed on this thread: student accommodation shouldn't be allowed because there aren't any universities nearby (news flash: London students commute like everyone else) and because only affordable housing should ever be built (news flash: that's not going to happen). This is a little sliver of land on an industrial site over a transport link. If we don't let student housing get built here, it's just not going to get developed. Right now it is housing no-one.

1) Student accommodation is NOT by definition short term. Short term lets are for 90 days or less. https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strategies/housing-and-land/improving-private-rented-sector/guidance-short-term-and-holiday-lets-london 2) it's easy to imagine things are a conspiracy when you don't understand how they work.

...all of which has got sod all to do with the topic of this thread. 🤣🤣

In positive news from West Norwood: there's a nice-looking new pub opened up next to the library/Co-Op called Badger Badger. https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2024/08/pubs-should-be-for-everyone-new-pub-called-badger-badger-opens-in-west-norwood-today-friday-2-august-2024/