Before then the little sweet shop which is now the lettings shop (Bizylets) was called Osgoods, the Chinese takeway used to be a dairy shop, the Turkish shop used to be a family greengrocers and what was Bill Coes TV repair shop (before he was forced out by the landlord) was Plaice bakeries (part of a small chain, who also had shops in Forest Hill and Lordship Lane where Badger bakers is now. As Laur said what was the chippy Dolphin Fish bar, used to be a kebab shop. Never quite sure how the butchers in Woodvale survives, seems to be closed more than its open, shuts at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon, probably the busiest day of the week and on the occasion I've been inside seems to have a very limited display of meat in the inside fridge but the main window is filled with junk and the service is so slow. What is now the converted flats on the corner of Woodvale and Langton Rise was the Moore Park Hotel/pub.