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Grove boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Grove boy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > I do the door for an establishment on Rye > > lane, > > > the fuckwittery and bile from pissed and > coked > > up > > > revellers is a regular thing. > > > > so your great insight is that sometimes people > > great drunk and act like idiots? > > > If you think coked and pissed up @#$%& spoiling > for fights, spewing up ,pissing in the street, > shitting outside peoples homes on Holly grove, > racially abusing staff is okay, then fine. It's > every weekend, but not as bad as a few people > letting off a few fireworks by the looks of it > hey! It?s terrible, but it?s nothing new, sadly I?m just not sure what the point here is Whilst I?m here - to be clear I don?t think that anyone letting off fireworks is necessarily racist and it?s clearly ridiculous to say otherwise

So it looks like Boris doesn't really know what he wants and hasn't got a plan but he does want either Canada or Australia or 'withdrawal agreement' or WTO - so not so much 'oven ready' as reheated! In short he doesn't want to do anything innovative or groundbreaking that other countries haven't done before and by the governments own analysis a Canada style deal would cause the economy to shriek by 5%(ish) within 15 years but I guess the leavers will take heart from it being a mess of our own making (except for trying to borrow the trade model already agreed by the EU with others thousands of miles away!) it's also worth noting that Canada's deal isn't really compatible with check free borders (as promised by the Boris) and in terms of figures, boris seems to think that doing as well as Canada is a success although our reliance on the EU as a trade partner is in a totally different ball park: The UK exported ?291bn of goods and services to other EU countries in 2018, which was 45% of all UK exports. It imported ?357bn of goods and services from the EU, which was 53% of all UK imports. On the other hand, Canada exported 46.2bn Canadian dollars (?26.7bn) of goods and services to the EU in 2017, which was 7.9% of its exports. It imported 63.6bn Canadian dollars of goods and services to the EU, which was 10.5% of its imports.

Grove boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I do the door for an establishment on Rye lane, > the fuckwittery and bile from pissed and coked up > revellers is a regular thing. so your great insight is that sometimes people great drunk and act like idiots?

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Barnier( or more accurately 'Barmier') has set out > the 'EU Terms' for fishing OUR waters....arrogance > of the man So you thought that we?d tell them that their rules were shit even tho we backed almost all of them and after they seen us burn their flag And then that we?d take back control and write our own rules (even tho we don?t know what) And the EU would just say fine, cherry pick what you want? How stupid

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > It's just that the prevailing thoughts at the time > were children should be allowed to wander freely > wherever we wanted without saying where we were > going except "out". maybe in hindsight that was a bit na?ve?

Weird how none of those who were so certain what they voted for and that we?d be taking back control and writing our own rules and not being told what to do by ?them? have nothing to say about this Maybe even some of those leavers can see Boris for the bullshitting self-publicist that he is and the ?oh shit? moment has happened for some of them

i must've missed the bit where anyone's assumed anyone was a paedophile

I guess Brexit is really done once the transition of over God knows what that?ll look like, but I hope it isn?t this year It?s a job worth not being rushed for PR purposes In my opinion deals are better done when you?ve got the upper hand in negotiations, I don?t think we do. In any event trade?s easier if everyone?s working to similar regulatory requirements, so we?ll have to accept plenty of alignment to end up with a sensible arrangement (in practice, now that people who voted ?on principles? have to realise that you need to agree something that?s actually realistic and workable)

FreyaMikaelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Grove boy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > FreyaMikaelson Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Grove boy Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > They're not even smart enough to realise that > this; > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-5134 > 1735 is their fault. If you're going to brand > everyone who votes to leave the EU a racist, > you're going to actually get real racists thinking > they've found their tribe. > Is it remainders fault that you talk so much BS too? And that you push inaccurate prejudiced stereotypes?

citylover Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, "To use a 'foreign' word is not a good look? Who are you quoting? It?s not me, I said ?schadenfreude is not a good look? Are you so blinkered that you can?t even see words in other languages?

It?s says something to me that such a large proportion of leavers are crying out about being the victims of hate crime (wtf!), democracy being a sham (despite getting what they wanted), a lack of respect and decorum and reasonableness (tho not by them clearly)) Whilst apparently taking more pleasure from baiting the ?losers? and seeing them unhappy than from their own ?win? They tell others to engage with the future and heal the divide whilst doing the opposite themselves, failing to be gracious even in victory and attacking the losers with juvenile prejudiced stereotypes And the astounding ignorance as to how the EU works! To use a ?foreign? word - schadenfreude is not a good look Surely the ?winners? should be happy to start this new chapter that they wanted so much and excited for the future, focussing on the positivity and control they think they?ve gained, rather than smugly smirking and seeing the best thing as the ?losers? losing not winning themselves and the golden era ahead

FreyaMikaelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You've* got issues. That's rich. But if I have any > issues it's with angry little delusional leftists > like you trying to destroy a country you're not > being forced to live in. If you love the EU so > much, what are you doing here on the ED forums > raging at those who don't want to be controlled by > a foreign country? If you want to be controlled by > Brussels, go live in Brussels, or any other > country abiding by their laws, or suck it up and > get over it. How childish

FreyaMikaelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Grove boy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > See, you're still frothing, So much harm? you > > sound like you've been brainwashed. > > > That's because they are brainwashed. > > If they seriously wanted to hear what leavers have > to say; what they think and want, they would have > turned up to Q&A events, held by > leavers/conservatives. Turning Point UK for > example, anyone? Didn't think so. Would have loved > to see those smug expressions wiped off of your > faces in a real debate... y'know, instead of > attacking DulwichFox? I mean... low blow. > > Cat, your posts have been a breath of fresh air on > this toxic thread. EDF needs more of you... less > of this filth. You got issues

Grove boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > stepdown Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Grove boy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > You don't have an agenda? We voted out three > > years > > > ago yet you're still banging on. It's kind of > > fun > > > seeing the bile and ranting here and > elsewhere > > > from remainers. How dare those pesky thick > > racists > > > piss on our chips! > > > > If you're going to make up a straw man to argue > > against, maybe don't quote the post you're > > replying to? It makes it a bit too obvious you > > haven't tried to respond to their actual point, > > other than your excellent "I know you are, but > > what am I?" rebuttal. > > > What agenda do i have? Is it to act like a provocative idiot cos you think it?s clever and funny?

stepdown Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Your nested quotes are getting a bit out of > control there, pk. yeah, looks like that apologies

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > TheCat Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > pk Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > TheCat Wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > Certainly, not all > > > > > remains, but a vocal minority would > prefer > > to > > > > take > > > > > the self-righteous high ground, rather > than > > > > engage > > > > > to help make the future relationship > (such > > as > > > > it > > > > > is) with the EU as successful as > possible. > > . > > > > > > > > what is it that you're doing to make the > > future > > > > relationship successful? > > > > > > Engaging with your trolling bullshit for a > > start > > > > > > why is asking someone who's going on about > > engaging what they're doing to engage trolling? > > > > an why would engaging with me help make a > > successful relationship with the EU? > > One of life's mysteries I guess. I guess I'm not surprised that you don't even understand what you say yourself and to be factual it'd be two mysteries, but I guess maths is another of your weak points

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > TheCat Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > Certainly, not all > > > remains, but a vocal minority would prefer to > > take > > > the self-righteous high ground, rather than > > engage > > > to help make the future relationship (such as > > it > > > is) with the EU as successful as possible. . > > > > what is it that you're doing to make the future > > relationship successful? > > Engaging with your trolling bullshit for a start why is asking someone who's going on about engaging what they're doing to engage trolling? an why would engaging with me help make a successful relationship with the EU?

TheCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Certainly, not all > remains, but a vocal minority would prefer to take > the self-righteous high ground, rather than engage > to help make the future relationship (such as it > is) with the EU as successful as possible. . what is it that you're doing to make the future relationship successful?

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wasting their time protesting against something > that is in Statute, the Law. so you think everything's done now, all the law is agreed and that e.g. any future trading or free movements arrangement is something that no-one should have public opinions on?

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > jimlad48 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > jimlad48 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > pk Wrote: > > > > > > > I do though feel that there was a range of > > options open to the OP > > > that could safely and approriately handled > the > > > situation and got trained professionals to > > assess > > > the risks and take action. > > > > you think that they should've got trained > > professionals in? really? who? > > > > > > > > a case of blatantly sexist > > > discrimination against someone who has done > > > nothing wrong > > > > but you don't know what they have or haven't > done? > > and the persons suffered no detriment > > > > > and is now being described on the internet in > > the language that strongly implies > > > they are a pervert. > > > > which language are you talking about that > strongly > > implies anything? > > > > > If I recognised myself in that v description > and > > knew I'd been present for innocent > > > reasons, I would be taking legal advice now > with > > a view to suing. > > > > they'd tell you that you're wasting your time > and > > money and that you don't understand what > slander > > is > > I'd say that if they were concerned enough to want > to report someone online, they should have been > concerned enough to raise it with the police if > they felt there was a genuine safety issue. > > The police do listen and report these incidents, > and if others have been reported may have useful > information or perspective that others do not. > They would have been the right point of call, > either as a 999 in the case of clear offences, > such as filming, masturbating or acting in a > manner that implied grooming (for instance), or > 112 if they felt worried for other reasons. > > The whole point here is someone has decided that > something doesnt pass the 'I need to get > professionals involved' test, but does pass the 'I > can make a post warning about someone' on the > internet test. If it was a problem they should > have taken the right steps to seek help, not just > slander an innocent passer by minding his own > business online. > > As noted above, there are plenty of perfectly > innocent and legitimate reasons for an adult to be > alone in a playground. can't be bothered, there's so much contradiction and inaccuracy in all of the above

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > > > I do though feel that there was a range of options open to the OP > that could safely and approriately handled the > situation and got trained professionals to assess > the risks and take action. you think that they should've got trained professionals in? really? who? > > a case of blatantly sexist > discrimination against someone who has done > nothing wrong but you don't know what they have or haven't done? and the persons suffered no detriment > and is now being described on the internet in the language that strongly implies > they are a pervert. which language are you talking about that strongly implies anything? > If I recognised myself in that v description and knew I'd been present for innocent > reasons, I would be taking legal advice now with a view to suing. they'd tell you that you're wasting your time and money and that you don't understand what slander is

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > jimlad48 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > The OP wasn't prepared to > > > take action, but was prepared to post without > a > > > shred of evidence a post that strongly hinted > > at > > > dodgy behaviour for the crime of standing by > > > oneself. It was utterly clear what they were > > > hinting at. > > > > the OP said: > > > > "I was with my baby and didn't feel confident > > questioning him, although i now regret that" > > > > "I know it seems over the top but i felt > > uncomfortable" > > > > you're all for coming up with reasons that some > > one might hang out in a play area in breach of > the > > bye laws, but you're not prepared to come up > with > > any reasons why a parent of a baby might be > > uncomfortable or lack confidence? > > > > that's odd to me > > > Simple - the parent could have rung the police > then, or on their return. If its that serious then > do something about it - don't just log onto EDF > and cast aspersions on another person minding > their own business. so you know the identity of the other person? and that they were just minding their business? I guess you do as you're accusing someone of slander (wrongly) I read it for what it said, a parent feeling uncomfortable

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The OP wasn't prepared to > take action, but was prepared to post without a > shred of evidence a post that strongly hinted at > dodgy behaviour for the crime of standing by > oneself. It was utterly clear what they were > hinting at. the OP said: "I was with my baby and didn't feel confident questioning him, although i now regret that" "I know it seems over the top but i felt uncomfortable" you're all for coming up with reasons that some one might hang out in a play area in breach of the bye laws, but you're not prepared to come up with any reasons why a parent of a baby might be uncomfortable or lack confidence? that's odd to me

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > as I would advise caution if someone is e.g. > > hanging around a toilet block (or in a toilet > > block!) without any apparent reason > > Not paedophila though - this would be a gay male > thing back in the time we had public toilets - > wasn't it called cottaging. Not condoning mind > but there's a difference. did I say anything about paedophilia? I just said I'd advise caution you on the other hand seem to be able to take comfort that someone hanging around the toilets is always a harmless gay male looking for easy sex not sure how that would work if e.g. it was the ladies toilet?

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > to assume that all lone adults are > necessarily going to be predators is a jump too > far. is anyone actually doing this?