silverfox

Looks like Italy's going to follow suit http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23800701-italy-to-follow-france-with-muslim-full-face-veil-ban.do

c/o Leicester Circus, just off Piccadily Square

pssssst, want to buy a bridge?

"Quaint"

Would you prefer they had their own cow tied up round the back?

We don't know anything about this leaflet dropper but the fact is he over-stepped the line as to what is acceptable. There was a lack of respect to persons and property and the nature of the job and level of pay is irrelevant. He entered ryedalema's home uninvited and in doing so he trespassed. He was then rude when she remonstrated. There are a number of implications to this brief encounter, not least had he slipped and hurt himself in ryedalema's hallwall for any reason (just mopped/polished floor before going out etc) she could have been sued under occupier's liability. Point is the molehill could well have become a mountain. You can't have people barging into your home uninvited for your sake as well as their's.

You see, I don't have any problems with a lesbian couple adopting children or having their own children. And strictly speaking this is a lesbian couple despite the legal semantics and politically correct posturing of using words like 'man' to describe females with two x chromosomes because they choose to be surgically and chemically altered to appear more like men. So, if they are a lesbian couple I shouldn't have any qualms about it. But I do because they are/or are pretending to be 'men'. (edited for typo)

News today that the world's second known "pregnant man" is expecting his first baby with his transgender husband next month. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7079941/Worlds-second-pregnant-man-expecting-baby-boy-next-month.html I'm just trying to decide where I stand on this. Is this a case of straining ethical and legal limits to breaking point in the name of freedom or is it simply a loving couple who ..."want to show the world that trans-families can be healthy, loving and nurturing" Scott Moore and his partner, Thomas, were both born as girls and have undergone surgery and hormone treatments to transform their sex. Scott, 30, is legally married to Thomas, with whom he lives in California, because he still has a female birth certificate. They met in 2005 at a support group meeting for transgender men. The pair already have two adopted boys, Gregg, 12, and Logan, 10, who are the children of a former female partner of Thomas's. Scott is now due to give birth next month. The sperm must have been donated but this isn't stated in the article. So is this a case of two mixed up individuals playing a potentially damaging game of daddies and mommies or is it an acceptable family unit? I must admit I'm not comfortable with this. There's no suggestion that Scott and Thomas can't provide a stable loving environment and they're not doing anything illegal. But what will be the long term effects on the two adopted children who have been given up by their mother. And will the third child brought into this 'family' end up well adjusted?

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Thinking about it ryedalema, although a bit clumsy and ill-mannered you could say your leaflet dropper was doing his job too well. His job is to make sure the leaflets are delivered into your home and he obviously took his responsibilities literally. If you report him he may well be promoted.

Technically it's called Trespass

The court heard that in the early hours of 3 December, 2008, Lynn injected an overdose of morphine directly into her vein after being handed two syringes by her mother. But when she realised that the dosage was not high enough, she called out to her mother, who then spent around an hour trying to persuade her not to press ahead with killing herself. Am I missing something? Why give her two overdosed syringes and then spend an hour talking her out of killing herself? Dodgy decision if you ask me.

Mother cleared of bid to murder suicidal daughter "A devoted mother who admitted helping her bed-ridden daughter commit suicide walked free from court this afternoon after being cleared of attempted murder. Bridget Kathleen Gilderdale, 55, crushed up pills and fed them through her 31-year-old daughter Lynn's nasal tube, handed her morphine and injected three syringes of air into a vein after her own attempt to take her life failed... Lynn had suffered from ME for 17 years... Unable to speak, eat or drink, she was fed through a tube at the family home in Stonegate, near Heathfield, East Sussex. She had attempted suicide in the past, had drafted a ?living will?, placed a Do Not Resuscitate note on her medical records and considered ending her life at Dignitas, the Swiss-based clinic. The court heard that in the early hours of 3 December, 2008, Lynn injected an overdose of morphine directly into her vein after being handed two syringes by her mother. But when she realised that the dosage was not high enough, she called out to her mother, who then spent around an hour trying to persuade her not to press ahead with killing herself. Gilderdale searched the house for tablets, fearing her daughter would be left alive but severely brain-damaged. These pills, including Diazepam, Zopiclone and Temazepam, were crushed using a pestle and mortar and then inserted into her daughter's nasal tube. Three syringes of air were also pumped into her with the intention of causing air embolisms, it was alleged... Jurors were told that she could not be tried for murder as it was uncertain whether her daughter died from the overdose she gave herself or from that given by her mother." ummmmmh ... something not quite right here. (my bold emphasis here) http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23798975-mother-cleared-of-trying-to-murder-sick-daughter.do

As I understand this it is part of a bigger debate going on in France as to what it is to be French. It's about multiculturalism and inclusion. There is also a big difference between France and the UK between the idea of the public and private realms. In France the street isn't the public sphere but when you enter official buildings and institutions and presumably shops, ie where thhe public are expected to engage as citizens. So, it is possible they will ban the burka in public meaning it can be worn in the streets but the face has to exposed in public spaces. That aside, it is possible some of these women are so ugly that when they expose their faces the public will clamour for them to cover themselves up again.

My point is things are going to get much worse in terms of demands on resources and some things we take for granted on this planet will diminish and/or vanish - there's very little we can do about it in the short term. We will adapt and the solutions will lie in scientific and technological advances, nanotechnology and genetic modifications of foods and livestock. What climate change scientists need to do is identify which of the myriad contributing factors are the most important issues that need to be tackled first.

This thread reminds me of the idea that if you put enough monkeys in a room with typewriters and give them enough time one of them will write the complete works of Shakespeare. Climate change doom mongers are a bit like those monkeys and one day they might come up with solutions that could possibly make a difference - that is if they haven't died of peptic ulcers worrying about things they've got no control over. As I've stated before here and on other threads, if you think we're heading for trouble now, wait until China, India and South America really get going. Those billions of industrious peasants all want what you've got Huguenot and Timster: labour saving white goods, fancy HD tellies, 3G phones and state of the art laptops/tablets. Energy hungry cities of 30 million people or more will be the norm. It'll take a bit more than windmills, silly light bulbs and putting gas masks on burping sheep to address the problems this will throw up. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Huguenot Today, 10:02AM "There are yet monkeys who will spend hours poring over a pullover for a loose thread, and having teased one out will declare it proves the pullover doesn't exist... Thus are idiots defined." Curious analogy Huguenot because this describes Climate Change arguments quite well. If the monkey pulls the thread to unravel the pullover then the pullover will no longer exist. It beomes a length of wool/cotton. So, is the monkey really mankind unravelling our fragile ecosystem or is the monkey unravelling a number of preassembled parts that have been stitched together to form a whole belief system?

Delirium tremens?

Lucozade?

Amnesiac - turn up in usual togs and say you forgot it was fancy dress

Weight Watchers clinic floor collapses under dieters The floor of a Weight Watchers clinic in Sweden collapsed beneath a group of 20 members of the weight loss programme who were gathered for a meeting. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/6990753/Weight-Watchers-clinic-floor-collapses-under-dieters.html

huncamunca said: "you dont have to eat a dog shit to know it tastes bad, so why bother musing over how it would taste if served with truffle oil and porcini mushrooms, on a bed of saffron rice innit." Bad analaogy here huncamunca, as you accept that dog poo exists. The quest of many on this thread is to try to find an answer to the question whether 'God' (however defined) exists. That we've failed to find the answer is understandable given the magnitude of what is possibly the ultimate question. However, there's no harm in trying to find that answer whether it be yes or no. So, I don't agree this thread is dealing with the 'absurd'. There are many issues we try to understand that are wildly unreasonable and illogical, eg, quantum theory - it's part of our innate search for knowledge and meaning. For example, there was an interesting article by Matthew Syed in The Times on Saturday on infinity, which was inspired by Fabrice Bellard, a French computer programmer, who has computed pi to 2.7 trillion decimal places. Syed, an athiest, says: 'In his novel The Picturegoers, David Lodge gives a graphic description of infinity as it applies to time: ?Think of a ball of steel as large as the world, and a fly alighting on it once every million years. When the ball of steel is rubbed away by the friction, eternity will not even have begun.? Spend a few minutes thinking about that and if you are not gripped by a strange, almost metaphysical feeling of nausea, you are not thinking hard enough.' Any attempt to answer the question 'Is there a God?' is a bit like that - it's mind-bending, probably unfathomable - but not absurd. Life would be so simple if we all had Kidkruger's existential outlook. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6981495.ece

Man's penis removed from pipe A man who went to casualty with his penis stuck in a steel pipe had to be cut free by firefighters using a metal grinder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6946257/Mans-penis-removed-from-pipe.html

Man wanted for 'sex with donkey' A warrant was issued today in the case of a man accused of having sex with a horse and a donkey after he failed to turn up at court. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23791809-man-wanted-for-sex-with-donkey.do

You see, this is a case in point Huguenot. If a clever guy like Hal9000 has misinterpreted this paper what chance do mere mortals like us stand? If the author was effectivey saying "we must do more to combat man made climate change than simply addressing CO2 emissions" then why the hell didn't he say it in plain English. Spit it out man! I pity the old grannies too frightened to put their electric blankets on tonight, or boiling a kettle for a hot-water bottle, in case the Copenhagen mob snowball them to death for heating up the planet.