Cassius Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Obviously a selfish middle class viewpoint here, > but isn't it better for young people to have some > FUN before they settle down and have children. Is > it not possible that a 16 year old who can't go > out and have fun with their mates may feel > resentment rather than love for the reason for > this? You are right it is a selfish, perhaps middle class (his skin crawls) idea but I wouldn?t trade the fun I have had in my twenties for anything. It has been irresponsible, dangerous and sometimes life threatening, expensive, stupid and thoroughly enjoyable. I wouldn?t have done most of it if I had a wife and children relying on me and in the future (when god willing I will) I certainly will not spend money or put myself in danger unnecessarily.