CPR Dave

I wouldn't make any such assumptions with this council.

It's such a bum argument. Where is the equality for people in Southwark paying for parking when, two hours a day aside, there is no charge at all for residents from outside the Borough. And no charge whatsoever if they just drive through polluting our streets, using our roads and they don't stop amd park. Theres no equity in that.

I just feel like they've been lying about this for years. They always intended to do it, with or without public support

Utter nonsense as it goes. Just like everything else Malumbu trolls on about on here. Would be better if they stuck to their own local forum where they live, although unfortunately there are no LTNs, CPZs, or 20 mph speed limits in Bromley.

I think this is a done deal tbh, It's a shame because it will push up house prices even more and squeeze poor people out of the area, further consolidating East Dulwich as an enclave for the rich upper classes. Hope for the sake of the people behind this policy that those kind of residents believe in the "equality" mission and keep on voting Labour.,

They used to publish an annual parking monitoring report. They seem to have stopped that in 2019, presumably because they were embarrassed about how much net profit they were milking from residents. This is the last published data showing the surplus made from parking charges in the five years to 2018/19: Financial Year: 2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 2018/19 Surplus: £5,152,000 £6,015,000 £6,796,000 £6,113,000 £7,025,000 https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/11828/Annual-Report-on-Parking-and-funding-2018-19-.pdf They said they were going to continue publishing parking data "in future Movement Plan Annual Monitoring Reports from 2019/20. This document will cover parking and funding data during the transition year" but I can't find those anywhere. In fact they haven't even been able to publish audited accounts since 2019/20. They have published three sets of unaudited annual accounts since then. https://www.southwark.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/key-documents/statement-of-accounts

They are probably just trying to save the environment., 20mph creates more emissions than 30 mph and is killing people and their lungs,

None of that is relevant to allowing people to keep cars as long as they pay more tax for paving slabs and benches every 110m Malumbum. This policy is not about saving the planet or even lowering emissions. It's about allowing people to carry on driving cars but picking their pockets at the same time. Labour have abandoned their Green New Deal, they don't even pretend to care about "tree huggers" or the climate anymore. They just want to tax people they have decided are rich.

6m of double yellow lines to move one car back a bit. The person who complained about this hampering their private car park seems very selfish and not good at driving. https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s115518/Appendix 15 Crystal Palace Road.pdf

That's your claim, not theirs. Their claim is that this about social justice. Nothing to do with "the largest crisis humanity has ever faced" (obscene language by the way in context of certain appalling genocides, some of which the left like to wash over, of course). There's evidence on another thread that this only about making people people pay more money to use the roads for car storage.

might well do so next time out. By then there will a right/centrist labour government failing spectacularly in a recession and a labour council who've gone round picking the pockets of all their constituents thinking they could get away with anything in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Seems ripe pickings to me. Not sure the incumbents have thought that far ahead.

It's unbelievably slippery.

They won't worry about though because self defeating morons keep voting them back in!

"Change of CPZ approach and says it’s required as a matter of justice - non car owners should not subsidise use of public space by car owners etc." outrageous. Why can't they just be honest. The only part of the council budget that is in surplus is roads, paid for by car owners.

Modern major general, have the council told you what action they will take in response to your epetition on their website? It seems to me that is a crucial piece of the campaign and you need to get as many signatures as you can, preferably more than 500

This is moronic. If everyone has switched to compliant cars then it has by definition solved the problem it set out to - anything other than ultra low emissions. The only possible way it would solve "nothing" would be if its sole purpose was not to reduce emissions but instead to pick peoples pockets with a greenwashing stealth tax. And we know full well that Labour and the LTN / ULEZ lobby would never be so dishonest.

I really like this pub but it's a bit hit and miss at the weekends whether it will be open or not as they are regularly closed for weddings and they don't seem to warn in advance on their website. So I often end up somewhere else on Saturdays just to avoid the disappointment of not being allowed in!!

There's nothing at all logical about people stealing from shops. That's a very dangerous tweet from the cyclists. If this activist was in a regulated profession she would have lost her livelihood for stealing that poster. If she was in my company she would have been summarily dismissed for this. Her pass would have been cancelled before she even got to work the next day. In my business we just can't trust people who thieve stuff that doesn't belong to them and nor will our customers.

I agree with you Nigello, it should be a case of turn up and swim if there's space in the pool. People can work out themselves which times are busy and suit them best. That always worked in the past, apart from for the family swim where there would massive queues 45 minutes before it started and loads of disappointed kids at the end of the line.

I guess they assume that no one has the resources to go through judicial review and they've picked people off in a piece meal enough fashion to avoid there being group initiatives. On this: Have you seen the state of what the Councillors put in on Grove Vale. Those benches and planters etc that costs us tax payers tens of thousands of pounds now look utterly dreadful. The council doesn't even look after the stuff it makes us pay for.

I suppose it's relevant because, just like these new CPZs, it's yet another example of Labour picking our pockets and pretending they are going to do something "Green" with the money.

225 people have signed this ePetition now. Spread the word!!

First Mate, re "Everything turns on the notion that parking round here is scarce" It looks like that is going to be the tactic for the Goose Green councillors to avoid a charge of dishonesty being levelled at them. Goose Green is not included, yet, in the consultations. So if the CPZs come in all over Dulwich Hill and Dulwich Village a lot of those residents, especially on boundary roads alongside Barry Road and Lordship Lane will start parking their cars in CPZ free Goose Green. At that point some people here will start asking for a CPZ and the councillors can keep their "promises".

The pool has been closed for about 3 weeks. Ever since Southwark took over.

Quite a few of the Clean Air Dulwich people have left London altogether.