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Mick Mac Wrote:

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> How can you be offended by being called "love".


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Because a certain kind of man uses it to patronise and belittle women he doesn't know.


ETA: The same kind of man that calls anyone without a prick darling.

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Mick Mac Wrote:

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> How can you be offended by being called "love".



Mick Mac - Happy to be corrected but I don't think its so much the word 'love' that is offensive as the way it can be intoned.


E.g. Did you get that one, dearie? Doesn't seem offensive does it? - but its whats implied.


I must have missed the news when they announced that "only gypsy's are offended by the word pikey?"


Next track someone please...

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Mick Mac Wrote:

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> I can understand "don't worry your pretty little

> head" might be annoying.

>

> I get that at work all the time.

>

> Or is it "dumb paddy", its one or the other, I

> can't remember which, but either of them would

> annoy me tbh.


lol....I hear what you're saying.

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I find menopause & menstruation offensive, why have the bloody (no pun intended) PC brigade not caused a fuss about those 2 words?? It always sounds like you are blaming it on us men :'(


Why can't we call it womenopause & womenstruation??


Ps- before anyone writes in to correct me, I know that the 'meno' prefix refers to the word 'month' NOT 'men'

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Andystar Wrote:

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> I find menopause & menstruation offensive, why

> have the bloody (no pun intended) PC brigade not

> caused a fuss about those 2 words?? It always

> sounds like you are blaming it on us men :'(

>

> Why can't we call it womenopause &

> womenstruation??

>


> Ps- before anyone writes in to correct me, I know

> that the 'meno' prefix refers to the word 'month'

> NOT 'men'


Andystar, actually there is a school of thought that believes it should be termed 'femstruation' for that very reason of disliking the supposedly male prefix.


Not a school of thought to which I subscribe, as it is ill-informed and in my view misses the point. If I may use the word misses when not referring to young ladies who have not yet found the right man to look after them.

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jimmy two times Wrote:

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> I'm confused. The woman behind the check out in Sainsburys called me 'love' today.


Good point. Plenty of women call men "love", "darling", etc. I don't think it's a sexist thing, just a common turn of phrase in some circles. I can kind of see Sue's point, but sometimes you just need to take things in the manner they were intended.

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The word water comes from the Old English and Germanic root wat/was and previously the Proto-Indo-European word for the liquid which has killed millions upon millions in human history not to mention left un-healable scars on our racial memory through events like the Black Sea Deluge which destroyed the lives of hard working families.


Those of us who are aware of the sensitivity of these issues and the possible offence that could be caused by the use of such outdated language now prefer to call it sand.


Or Norman.

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Jeremy Wrote:

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> jimmy two times Wrote:

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> > I'm confused. The woman behind the check out in

> Sainsburys called me 'love' today.

>

> Good point. Plenty of women call men "love",

> "darling", etc. I don't think it's a sexist thing,

> just a common turn of phrase in some circles. I

> can kind of see Sue's point, but sometimes you

> just need to take things in the manner they were

> intended.



I agree that sometimes 'love' is employed with no hint of insult (I'm northern, I use and hear it all the time when I go home), but I think Sue was right to flag it if she felt it. Often with sexist (or other kind of "ist") comments, it's the casual nature that makes it so insidious. What I took issue with was Sue's saying she was offended by it, then Iain and JTT both saying it again, like Sue's feelings on the matter didn't count.


In some circles cunt is considered a term of endearment, but if someone didn't like it, I wouldn't call them a cunt for not liking it...

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