London mayoral elections - what to do?

[Blah Blah]

Yes and it seems to have backfired hugely for Zac. Khan today was put at a 20 point lead. That has to be pretty grim reading for Cameron. And with it now coming to light that 24 Tory won marginal seats may have broken electoral rules on campaign spending, things could be about to get a lot worse for them.

[Loz]

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> I'd love it to be someone other than Goldsmith or Khan but that's never going to happen, so rather

> than waste my first vote on someone who can never win, I'll be reluctantly voting for Khan with

> someone as yet undecided for my second choice.

Do it the other way around - i.e. one of Zac/Khan as your second vote and one of the minors as you first. That way, both of your votes will get counted,

[DulwichFox]

What difference will it make to the average 'Man on the Street' who becomes Mayor. ?

Nothing.. I really do not care who becomes the next London Mayor...

"If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it." Ken Livingstone .. Former London Mayor.

DulwichFox.. average 'Man on the Street'

[heartblock]

Zac always comes across as a bit bored with his wealthy life and this is just something to do. I didn't mind him previously, but the latest 'Trump' behaviour by him and Cameron is poor politics/ mud slinging. I'm unimpressed by Khan and he may get my reluctant vote. I don't know much about Caroline P, what's her platform and her policies?

[spark67]

The whole Tory mantra lately is to put into peoples minds that certain people are doing things that are driven by their religion or ethnic origins, playing to the right. the Khan insinuations by Cameron and the Embarrassing Boris incident about Obama has really put me off their party...Politics has become more about playing to peoples fears more and general scaremongering than actual policy detail. The EU debate is such an example, from both sides.

[miga]

Seems silly, they could have just stuck to Khan's track record of unprincipled flip flopping on issues if they wanted to sling mud.

[Earl Aelfheah]

reminds me if the 'are you thinking what we're thinking' wink and nudge campaign of michael howard. Nasty.

[TheArtfulDogger]

I knew who I wanted to vote for this morning but then came the dreaded "second choice for mayor"

Who to vote for , it had to be strategic enough to block the party I didn't want from getting in, but it also had to be a party that wouldn't get in regardless to make sure that I didn't push someone in by accident

I umm'ed and arrr'ed For an agonising 5 minutes then panicked and voted for "canabis is safer than alcohol" party ...

It did strike me through the fog in my brain that if everyone did the same and there wss a tie for first place, maybe , just maybe by default they could win...

Now there is a thought for those of you to still vote... 😎

[Loz]

If your first choice was either Tory or Labour, your second choice was irrelevant.

[????]

Choice is a between a party that apparently hates Jews and a party that apparently hates Muslims..

...happy days eh, politics in 2016.

[TheArtfulDogger]

Even if second choice is irrelevant

The concept of strategic second place voting did make me smile

[Otta]

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> Choice is a between a party that apparently hates

> Jews and a party that apparently hates Muslims..

I shouldn't even rise to this, but you know full well that's utter bullshit.

[malumbu]

Not taken a lot of notice. A choice between a 'professional geezer' and a 'pleasant toff'. The latter isn't as bright or should I say devious as BJ.

SK's comments on a review of security in the capital was plain bollocks. We already have a highly efficient set of agencies assessing risk and putting soft and hard measures in place that has helped avoid mass casualty attacks - you cannot eliminate them. He should have been congratulating the agencies, saying that we will build on this, and his focus should be community cohesion

The comment on "northerners" being included in our diverse community was just silly. Obviously responding to Millwall's Harry the Dog's views from the mid 70s (we like other working class teams. Apart from Northerners)

TfL funding is going to be a massive issue but to be fair he may not know all the details.

But hey, I am picking on his because he was a bit annoying, and these are areas I am well informed. He cannot compete with Boris on the annoying front, or Ken (the great working class hero?) on sheer stupidity

[????]

Otta Wrote:

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> > Choice is a between a party that apparently

> hates

> > Jews and a party that apparently hates

> Muslims..

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> I shouldn't even rise to this, but you know full

> well that's utter bullshit.

Chill out Otta and read it again slowly. it's a comment on the political dialogue, mentions both parties and has apparently in it if you look carefully

[Loz]

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> > > > Choice is a between a party that apparently hates

> > > Jews and a party that apparently hates Muslims..

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> > I shouldn't even rise to this, but you know full

> > well that's utter bullshit.

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> Chill out Otta and read it again slowly. it's a

> comment on the political dialogue, mentions both

> parties and has apparently in it if you look carefully

I was just surprised to see Otta jump to the defence of the Tories so quickly...

[Earl Aelfheah]

I'm glad that Zac's sleazy tactics didn't pay off.

[????]

They were terrible and have damaged Tory support with a lot of London minorities - I honestly wonder who thought that they'd ever work in London (let alone the morality)

[Otta]

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> > > Choice is a between a party that apparently

> > hates

> > > Jews and a party that apparently hates

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> > I shouldn't even rise to this, but you know

> full

> > well that's utter bullshit.

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> Chill out Otta and read it again slowly. it's a

> comment on the political dialogue, mentions both

> parties and has apparently in it if you look

> carefully

I know it mentioned both parties, and I was defending both (feel a bit dirty).

[Blah Blah]

Yep, Zac is a lesson on how to not lead a campaign. Looks like he's been beaten comprehensively.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I'm rather proud of Londoners for rejecting zacs negative campaign. I suspect such tactics may have worked in some other regions and cities outside the Capital.

[apbremer]

Both Tory and Labour candidates hopeless. Weak and no personalities whatever.Who on earth chose them?

['bout now]

I'm loving the defence of Zac Goldsmith this morning, kind of on the lines of "I was only obeying orders", which makes him one of two things'

A thick puppet

Complicit.

[Otta]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/07/zac-goldsmith-racist-campaign-london?CMP=share_btn_tw

[Seabag]

A. I'm glad to see the back of Boris

B. Once we clear the Brexit issue, we'll hopefully see a lot less of him

C. Goldsmith blew it, knob

[miga]

I think that Guardian opinion piece is really histrionic. "Hope won over hate" - yeah right. The inevitable result hapenned, Khan was way ahead for yonks, even before Goldsmith pointed out he had met with some oddballs (and all this was meant to imply). If anything the gap closed.