bodsier Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 In my opinion, it doesn't go far enough and should include compulsory academies. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/thousands-of-parents-to-take-children-out-of-school-in-protest-over-stressful-exams-a7006666.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 They've got Thursday off- why don't they do their 'creative outdoor learning' then? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-992486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillandjoe Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 ummmmm, because it wouldn't be a very effective strike if the school is already closed to pupils all day? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-992624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 As a parent I always felt that it was my responsibility to do the 'creative outdoor learning' evenings, weekends and holidays. My own experience of primary school was one of mostly academic work, i.e. the 3 Rs, some singing, PE now and again, but mostly comprehension, non-verbal and verbal reasoning, and a lot of heavy- duty numeracy- in a competitive atmosphere -and there was no let-up at weekends because at home our relatives relentlessly tested us. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-992752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minder Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 So what Southwark schools are taking action tomorrow?There might be some parents who don't mind their children taking the tests. What do their teachers think about kids not turning up? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodsier Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 The schools are not taking action, the parents are, those that don't mind won't be keeping their kids away on that day. Some teachers don't like what's happening to the school education system, what they think of this particular course of action? I don't know. You would have to ask them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I'd really like to hear the perspective of somebody who supports this boycott.I think there is a lot wrong with the government's approach to education but I find this campaign unclear.Reading about it, I can't tell if they don't like tests in general or if they simply don't like the form or difficulty level of the current tests?Standardized tests help monitor pupil progress and keep schools accountable for progressing children adequately so I personally support standardized tests. However, when testing should start and what balance of subjects there should be in the curriculum is more debatable in my view but there doesn't appear to be any coherent proposal being put forward about those issues. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanW Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I would imagine most parents would support the tests.As a parent, I certainly want to know how well, or not, my children are progressing. I also want to know how well the school is doing.And I think the first round of testing has to be when they are quite young (6/7 being about right) so progress/value add can be measured for both the school and the child. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Don't inoculate/vaccinate our kidsdon't test our kids...same Luddism from the usual suspects in my opinion Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As an aside, I don't think children should be entirely sheltered from dull tasks (I don't mean when they are super young but just in general). So much of having a good work ethic is developing the discipline to concentrate and do what at times is dull work. Learning to feel a sense of reward from completing a task because its worth doing rather than because the task itself is fun is an essential life skill. Not developing these habits early on just stores up a very rude awakening when its time to enter the real world. I already see some of the fall out with young millennials entering the workforce now. Its not just work though- tons of aspects of being an adult are dull: preparing taxes, budgeting, setting up your savings and pension, organizing repairs, picking your insurances deal etc. Good god, just writing that list filled me with a bit of despair... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffron Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Scroll down for some interesting pros and cons: http://standardizedtests.procon.org/#background Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunheadmum Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I'm not against SATs per se and I think a lot of the pressure that schools convey about them comes from parents looking at league tables because we want the 'best' school for our kids and hence schools are scared to drop down the table or have a less than good OFSTED. If we want to be able to compare schools, and the government want to be able to easily compare performance, exam results are an easy way to do that. (Even if it's less than perfect.) Some schools are good at doing the tests without getting the kids stressed and good at covering the curriculum without making it seem like they're teaching to the test. But I think the article below by Michael Rosen gets to the crux of the current problem - the material being covered, particularly in English, is presented in a particularly technical way and the marking schemes are incredibly harsh. The new curriculum was also brought in quite quickly without giving kids time to catch up before they're being tested against it. And there was little clarity for teachers about how to grade pupils against the curriculum levels.http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/may/03/morgan-sats-test-children-primary-school-pupilsSadly I don't think a lot of the coverage today necessarily got to the real heart of the problem and has come across as middle-class parents worrying about their comfortable kids. Which is a shame. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't have a problem with tests in school. My daughter's doing her SATS now.I don't think taking children out of school in protest is a good lesson for them - that will just teach them if they don't want to do something, they don't have to.General problems at our school are1) bullying - and ineffective methods of addressing it - largely from teachers being too busy/ denial and refusal to do anything by the relevant parent2) general lack of discipline - unruly children disrupting classes3) classes too large 4) changes of curriculum5) lack of parental involvement (how many parents support the PTA?In a healthy environment, all children will learn. Tests are essential as life is not without pressures and competition.Unfortuntately, the schools have to conform to government gudelines which is where detachemnt comes from....Teachers hsouldn't have to struggle as much as they do - and should be supported.I think our school does well, despite having restrictions, too many targets, too many kids, too littel support..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/104466-a-day-of-action-against-sats/#findComment-993443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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