Anyone who lives in Upland Road (vans constnatly parked in our road)

[annabel]

does anyone else mind the East Dulwich vans constantly parked in our road? Since the building development in their plot I am plagued by them; parking tricky enough.

Is it even legal to run a business from the street? Is there anything I can do?

[Domitianus]

How are they running a business from the street?

[Siduhe]

Do you mean Dulwich Van Hire? If so, see the James Barber thread - Southwark Council enforcement officers are involved.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,336529,423994#msg-423994

[Mellors]

Grrrr, they are parked all round us as well. I suggest you contact James Barber and see if the council enforcement officers have managed to do anything yet.

[mothernature]

This subject has been going on for some time and there are verious issues all of which are in the hands of Southwark.James Barber is fully aware of the situation but can only act within the 'rules'.As it stands officialy Dulwich Van Hire can continue to trade using the public road as storage but are limited to parking 8 vans on the surounding streets.

So as far as Southwark are concerned Dulwich Van Hire are doing what has been asked of them and continue to trade without restriction from Barrys Off Licence.

I do not accept that this kind of activity can be allowed and would urge all affected to contact James Barber directly to air your veiws.

MN

[SeanMacGabhann]

what would you suggest is an acceptable solution?

[Mellors]

I don't believe they should be able to trade as a van hire business withough having suitable premises on which to store their vans (not on the already overcrowded surrounding residential streets).

When they applied for planning permission to change the use of the site on Barry Rd from business to residential, my understanding was that they forfeited the right to trade as a business from there, yet they effectively continue to do so. You can't have your cake (the residential development of the business site and taking the profit from that) and eat it (continuing to run the business despite not having sufficient space to do so) IMO.

I'm not sure what the latest is though.

[mothernature]

I agree with Mellors.

Please let James Barber know your views.I have contacted various departments at Sowthwark and it is difficult to find the right people to talk to.The crew at Parking Enforcement were as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

MN

[Mellors]

I have - I'm afraid he had to listen to me banging on about it at great length when he had the misfortune to knock on my door the other saturday afternoon...

[chichirara]

Where will they service and wash the vans. They still drive into the site at weekends and park in the loading bay. Surely this can't be a legal way to run a business

[Widdy]

You need to speak to Southwark Planning Enforcement - they'll investigate.

[annabel]

I agree!

[Mellors]

Grrrr, two enormous transit vans parked outside my house tonight. Is anything ever going to be done about this?

I have emailed James Barber.

[Selma]

In the mean while we can also use out powers as consumers and not use Barrys Off Licence as long as they house the Van Hire.

[James Barber]

I've engaged Southwark Council Planning Enforcement several times.

I've asked them again to invesitgate and take further this case.

[TheArtfulDogger]

Hi James

Taking my dodgy Hat off for a moment as this is something that needs to be looked into as at times I have noticed 4 Dulwich Van hire vans parked in Upland road, and equivelent numbers in Barry road.

can you let everyone know what the Planning Enforcement team are doing about hte situation, what they have said and also what actual powers they have to enforce with ?

Many thanks

[Huguenot]

I think the idea can be revisited because the vehicles are effectively unsold but tradeable commercial goods.

It's thoroughly against the law to use the public highway for commercial storage.

I'd like to see the same law being used to get rid of estate agents' fanny wagons.

[Shine_Barrys]

Hi, this is Shine from Barry's Off Licence.

It has been brought to my attention by a customer, that the residents of Upland Road have been facing a severe inconvenience from Dulwich Van Hire. Therefore I have spoken to the manger today of Dulwich Van Hire and have informed him of the inconvenience they have been causing, and have requested that no Vans should be parked on Upland Road as of immediate affect.

I have also told him that they have to find a permanent residence for their Vans other than the local residential parking or we will not be able to offer them office space at Barry's any longer. I have given them one month to do this.

Barry?s has always been a community shop which has been established for 30 years. We have a very loyal, trusted and supportive customer base and as you all know we are all very approachable people. So, please if you any queries or problems concerning Barry?s Off Licence please contact us either, by visiting the shop, via email: [email protected] or via a phone call: 02082990443. I have now also signed on to east Dulwich forum where I will also be available for contact

Thank you very much.

Kind regards. Shine Bedi.

[Huguenot]

Ah, what a nice chap in a difficult situation!

[Mellors]

Yes, they have now moved three of them round the corner to Henslowe. GRRRRRR.

[chichirara]

There are 3 one small section of Barry Road this morning. It really is infuriating not to be able to park.

[TheArtfulDogger]

maybe they could move into the old wood yard when it is cleared as a temporary home till they find somewhere else ?

[Shine_Barrys]

Hi this is Shine again from Barrys Off Licence.

I have been in constant contact with the Dulwich Van Hire management, and have made it thoroughly clear to them that the Vans have to be moved off the local residential streets as soon as possible as I do understand that they have moved away from Upland Road to other nearby streets.

I know this extremely frustrating for our local residents; however I do feel I am getting through to them. Keep you all updated.

Thank you for all your support.

[woodie]

Hiya Shine, great shop.

[ruffers]

TheArtfulDogger Wrote:

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> maybe they could move into the old wood yard when

> it is cleared as a temporary home till they find

> somewhere else ?

This is a great idea. Joined up thinking etc.