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I think there's loads of getting offended on behalf of others which is wrong, the kind of example I'm thinking of is when it's reported that people are being asked not to wear crosses for instance as it may offend those of other faiths. The other people haven't objected, and when asked tend to say that they respect others showing their faith and have no problem with it.


I think that's wrong, yes.


Sorry for Off topic admin.

ZoeBloor17 Wrote:

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> I also like a good rummage especially for books


Try the Scope shop at Camberwell Green and the Trinity Hospice, Geranium, Sense and Red Cross shops on Walworth Road. Cheaper than the ED shops for books.

ruffers Wrote:

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> I think there's loads of getting offended on

> behalf of others which is wrong, the kind of

> example I'm thinking of is when it's reported that

> people are being asked not to wear crosses for

> instance as it may offend those of other faiths.

> The other people haven't objected, and when asked

> tend to say that they respect others showing their

> faith and have no problem with it.

>

> I think that's wrong, yes.

>

> Sorry for Off topic admin.


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That has got absolutely nothing to do with an offensive word being used in this thread.

2...i say call a pikey a pikey - Just so we all know what we are talking about....


"Pikey is a pejorative slang term used mainly in the United Kingdom to refer to Irish Travellers, gypsies or people of low social class. Pikey is also sometimes called a piker in the United States.


The term pikey as a pejorative appears to be a very old English word, remaining near unchanged, probably in common use during William Shakespeare's lifetime. The text Gypsy Politics and Social Change notes Boorde's 1547 reference:


Egipcions be swarte and doth go disgsy'd in theyr apparel, contrary to other nacyons: they be lyght fyngered, and use pyking.


Gypsies are swarthy and go disguised in their apparel, contrary to other nations: they are light-fingered and use piking.


The term is strongly associated with itinerant life and constant travel: pikey is directly derived from pike which, circa 1520, meant to "go away from, to go on" and related to the words turnpike (toll-road) and pike-man (toll-collector).


Pikey's most common contemporary use is not as a term for the Gypsy ethnic group, but as a catch-all phrase to refer to people, of any ethnic group, who travel around with no fixed abode."


- source Wikepedia (not normally a great source, but looks good for this).


Hence if you refer to 'pikeys' you should be referring to someone who is (a) a traveller and (b) of no fixed abode - possibly though not necessarily of Irish origin. It's an offensive term (always) and generally innaccurate when you are simply making a class (and not a lifestyle/ origin) comment.

I'm a Pikey and I don't find it offensive at all. Does this make it right? I'm not sure but I can safely say that if you see me and my vast family caravanning down Lordship Lane and you want to give a 'Pikey' shout, feel free.


We have wi-fi in the caravan in case you're wondering.

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