Jump to content

Recommended Posts

*Bob* Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I do read some stuff in here, but to be honest I

> usually skip over a lot of the 'point-by-point

> rebuttals'.

>

> The content might well be pertinent and useful but

> they just look really, really boring.

_____________________________________________________


Agree....


My eyes boggle & I "ZZzzzzz" out



W**F

The Chair Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> LuLu Too Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I'm with *Bob* on this one.

> > And Fisking makes my eyes go funny...

> >

> > What's happening in The Drawing Room?

> > Surely this thread should be lounged by now?!

>

>

> Agreed. Too much silly behaviour.



I've just seen this! A blatant "fisk" if ever I saw one! From our esteemed Chair too!


*shakes head and tutts twice*

Thought the OP was a bit OTT - just let people do it how they want to do it surely.


Having said that, along similar lines, I don't like it when people quote a lengthy post and than just say that they agree with it. No value added and also it takes a hell of a long time on my little phone to scroll down through a long post, and as I'm sometimes trying to wind down on the way home from work, it irritates me a bit.....just a bit though.

Totally agreed MM, that is one of the most annoying habits that plenty of posters are guilty of.

Keef's patented "what bob said" does the trick much more succinctly.


I have done the odd fisk when someone's tortured logic needs teasing apart thus making a converstational response impossible.

BUt on the whole I think it detracts from a conversational tone, you wouldn't fisk someone down the pub would you, you'd say "I don't know I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your dog clamping idea, but when it comes to taxing three wheeled prams I reckon you're on to a winner there."


On here it just makes for a more pleasant read and is a bit more aesthetically pleasing; better than all those damn ugly greater-thans ">" everywhere.


If you are going to quote, and its a perfectly valid thing to do, then I'd love it if people just picked the relevant bit more often and use either "sumfink" or

sumfink else
.


my two-penneths worth anyhow

Clearly I'm in agreement with Mockers.


To refer to earlier insinuations, I'm not sure that I misinterpret at all. I think I get it absolutely spot on most of the time. The fact that I can't 'prove' it doesn't make it any less accurate. If I consider on reflection I've got it wrong I'm happy to apologise.


Moos, I note that even your entire criticism was missing a direct reference. Do I assume then that I am 'misinterpreting' and you are actually talking about someone else? Or am I in fact spot on. Again. That that was snidey insinutation and directed at me?


As for aggressiveness.... well I guess that's subjective. I can only tell you that I don't feel aggressive at all. I usually shorten my posts to make them more objective. I can see that makes me appear terse, but mainly I think you're all big enough to stand up for yourselves..

While some of you find it annoying, it's clear that not everyone feels the same way. However "spot on" you think you are!!


Mockney... the '>' character is actually a feature of the forum, it happens automatically when you hit "quote this message". So perhaps you should be speaking to the admin about this? I agree that the "box" formatting is neater.

Sorry Jezza, I was responding to an ad hominem attack from earlier in the thread. It wasn't ontopic, but hell, we're in the lounge now ;-)


Disparate views on 'quoting' are of course subjective. I made the assertion to prompt a discussion, not to assume that I had the answer.

Misinterpretation is a common complaint - the record speaks for itself in that respect.


I?ve noticed the same problem regarding terse or brief (I would say precise or succinct) being interpreted as aggressive or, worse, arrogant.


Sometimes a subtle sense of humour or irony is either not perceived or misinterpreted.


We are what we are and we do what we do ? I guess.

Cheer up grump...err...Huguenot, this has turned out to be (I think) a rather entertaining thread.


Personally, I find breaking up long paragraphs and responding that way useful. To my mind, the practice also imparts order and neatness (though clearly, you - and others - do not agree). I shall attempt to try and cut down (a bit) seeing as it annoys some...but don't expect complete cessation!


As for your comment: "I'm not sure that I misinterpret at all. I think I get it absolutely spot on most of the time. The fact that I can't 'prove' it doesn't make it any less accurate., my automatic response was to burst out laughing (I found it funny because it is so typical of you), but I am now wondering whether...oh to hell with it...


*lobs another tomato at Huguenot*

Huguenot has asked me to clarify both in his post and in a PM that I was talking about him.


I sometimes find the debates too aggressive for my liking, and in my perception people sometimes pick up on others' responses and partially or wholly misinterpret them to score points rather than trying to move the general discussion towards a shared understanding. I didn't intend to be sly or snide - it would have been inappropriate to name Huguenot as he's not the only person who does it but to be clear he was someone I had in mind.

We shall have to agree to differ then ms muck.

I think of threads as conversations and dislike things being repeated ad nauseum. But that might be a reaction to Dpaniards who feel they have to say everything two or three times, preferably shouted over everybody else speaking at the same time.

Hmmmm, perfect description of the forum thinking about it!!

mockney piers Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Dpaniards


I tried looking that up but Google suggested "Spaniards" - you almost had me there!


Re quoting: if one can respond immediately after another post - fair enough, but when the issue has migrated several posts to the north, or where several other posters have intervened, a brief 'so-and-so wrote what' is essential to provide context without forcing readers to scroll up - especially on this forum where threads are not sub-threaded. IMHO.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • In just two days, we’ll take to the streets to show Donald Trump that he and his politics are not welcome here. On Saturday the global far-right mobilised their biggest protest for decades. We want to show that supporters of Trump and fascism are not the majority – far from it. Here are all the details you need for the day. The march assembles at Portland Place, near the BBC, at 2pm (see assembly blocs below). After speeches here, the march will move off at 3pm. It will then march down Regent St, through Piccadilly Circus, on Whitehall (past Downing St) to our rally at Parliament Square. The rally at Parliament Square will begin around 5pm and finish at 7pm. If you can’t make it to the march, feel free to join the rally after work! (Nearest tube: Westminster). The short, accessible version of the route assembles at the top of Whitehall (SW1A 2DY) at 4.30pm to march to Parliament Square for 5pm. You may also prefer to just join the rally directly at Parliament Square.  Join a bloc – and make friends! Our movement is diverse, and various elements are forming ‘blocs’ on the march to emphasise their visual presence collectively. You can join these blocs or form up behind them:   A) Palestine, near BBC, W1A 1AA B) Climate, W1B 1NS C) Amnesty, around junction with New Cavendish St, W1B 1LU D) Migrants' rights, W1B 1LS E) Jewish bloc, W1B 1QQ F) Ukraine, around junction with Weymouth St, W1B 1JL G) Europe, W1B 1NR More stewards still needed Stewards are a crucial part of keeping the protest safe for everyone to participate. They are a visible point of contact for attendees who may need directions or other assistance. Experience of stewarding is useful but it's also fine if you haven't done it before. You will be issued with a hi-vis jacket and briefed in advance and on the day.  Sign up to be a steward Staying comfortable on the day The demonstration lasts for several hours, so we suggest you should:     Bring a bottle of water and snacks (and eat beforehand)     Charge your phone fully the night before, and bring a portable charger if you can     Go to the loo beforehand (really!)     Buddy up with someone, or stick together as a group – it can be hard to find people easily if people wander off     Coming alone? Protests can be a great place to meet like-minded people. If you feel unsure, you can always talk to a steward     Consider the weather: bring a waterproof jacket or wear suncream where necessary     Wear comfortable clothes and footwear, and use our accessible route if you need to (see above) Bring your friends and family on Wednesday. Let’s make this massive! In solidarity, Stop Trump Coalition
    • Phone found by Derwent Gtove. I have picked it uo. Please DM if you think.it may be  yours. 
    • Preferably wooden and/or with storage. Please contact me if getting rid of one, can collect. 
    • Another recommendation for Adam on the Dartmouth Road. Have been going there for years. I will never go anywhere else (unless I move home to somewhere far away!) No faff, very reasonal price and nice atmosphere 👍
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...