Trains cancellations - latest

[dirac]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> .. but will anyone really notice the difference?

lol probably not

[danielson00]

I know people trying to re-let a flat, everyone is being put off by the appalling train service. They can't understand why it's so bad for Zone 2!

[KidKruger]

the 1730 from LB yesterday stopped at South Berm for about 12 mins, the driver seemed to be saying it's scheduled.

[DulwichFox]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> the 1730 from LB yesterday stopped at South Berm

> for about 12 mins, the driver seemed to be saying

> it's scheduled.

It's part of Southern Rails keep fit 'Walk and Ride' scheme.

12 mins wait means you can get off the train at South Berm walk to Queens Road Peckham where you rejoin the train..

It's brilliant

Foxy

[Earl Aelfheah]

mikeb Wrote:

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> I've completely written off East and North Dulwich

> stations, now using Denmark Hill and Forest Hill

> plus cycling / running and buses. I think

> September will see the real impact of the

> timetable

Yeah, 1 token train an hour is barely worth the effort. They may as well just close the station until this is sorted.

[Earl Aelfheah]

....ED that is.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Why don't Southern just stop running trains and allow people to walk and cycle along the tracks?

[Jeremy]

Yep... fully segregated cycle lane would be infinitely more useful than this joke of a train service!

[Alan Medic]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Why don't Southern just stop running trains and

> allow people to walk and cycle along the tracks?

Or like this maybe....

http://trainfanatics.com/go-karts-abandoned-railroad-tracks/

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Gilloc Wrote:

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> Where can you find copy of old train times to

> claim against does anyone know?

If you poke about on the national rail website it has historic data for train journeys actual and scheduled and a rate times. It doesn't go back that far though.

[Lowlander]

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote:

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> Gilloc Wrote:

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> > Where can you find copy of old train times to

> > claim against does anyone know?

>

>

> If you poke about on the national rail website it

> has historic data for train journeys actual and

> scheduled and a rate times. It doesn't go back

> that far though.

This site goes back three months http://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk

[DovertheRoad]

0653, the only train for an hour was cancelled this morning again. Can't see commuters taking this much longer. Especially once the holidays are over.

[dirac]

Not sure how relevant this is with people who have year passes etc, but a fellow student from college has developed a phone application which helps you get repaid from delayed trains. Not used it myself as I'm biking most places now, but there's a better write up here:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/techandgadgets/student-launches-app-to-claim-compensation-for-delayed-rail-passengers-a3304466.html

[goldilocks]

The problem is that a lot of people use pay as you go and an app for train arrivals. If you see that the train is cancelled you go a different route but then don't have a ticket for the ED - LB route as you haven't swiped in at ED. My understanding of this (unless I'm wrong) is that you wouldn't be eligible for compensation (despite the fact that a bus plus train alternative may cost more. Ideally I'd like to be claiming compensation from Southern every day for the fact that there is virtually no service from ED, but don't think I'm eligible unless someone else can tell me otherwise?

[MarkE]

Would someone who takes the 8:02 from EDW mind clarifying... does this secretly carry on to London Bridge, or terminate at South Bermondsey as advertised? Was tempted to leap on this morning, but didn't fancy getting stuck.

[dirac]

I was also going to ask how the trains from Peckham Rye to Blackfriars have been in the mornings? Starting new job tomorrow and need to arrive at 1000; so don't want to be late. Have they been delayed? Journey takes 15 mins but I was thinking of leaving an hour to spare just in case in the inevitable happens...

[indiepanda]

dirac Wrote:

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> I was also going to ask how the trains from

> Peckham Rye to Blackfriars have been in the

> mornings? Starting new job tomorrow and need to

> arrive at 1000; so don't want to be late. Have

> they been delayed? Journey takes 15 mins but I was

> thinking of leaving an hour to spare just in case

> in the inevitable happens...

Delays of a few minutes are common, cancellations not that rare. It's not as bad as the trains into London bridge but it's bad enough I use the 63 to go all the way to work a lot of the time. However, I live a mile and half from the station and get on the 63 or 363 to get to the station anyway, and so I resent getting off the bus to get on a crowded train which could then be delayed. I would feel different if I was a short walk to the station.

If you have to be in for 10 it shouldn't be too bad as there's a few different ones not long after 9 and you'd often get a seat that time of morning too. The ones before 9 are overcrowded.

[anthonyr]

Currently sitting on the 1730 at South bermondsey.. Been taking on water for the engine the last 10 mins or the track ahead is busy with other trains! A joke when will it end :(

[KidKruger]

Last week they did that - driver said it was a scheduled stop of 12 mins.

Bollox.

[nunheadmum]

indiepanda - I've found there's been lots more cancellations on the Blackfriars / Thameslink trains over the past month than there ever were before. It's well worth checking the train tracker app for up to the minute info in the morning. That said, when it works, it's a good line if you can get on - particularly if you start at 10 when you should be able to miss the worst of the rush hour crush.

[Sue]

Forgive me if this has already been covered or isn't relevant, as I haven't read the whole thread, but I got a survey form through my door today soliciting views on cancelling the Southern Railway franchise (I do realise the thread is on train cancellations and not the franchise!)

Helen Hayes (MP) is apparently calling for Southern's franchise to be cancelled as a matter of urgency, and I guess the survey results would help bring this about.

I'm not filling it in because I very rarely use trains these days and haven't experienced any problems, but if you do and you haven't received the survey form, you might want to contact them. It only gives an address, which is East Dulwich Labour Action Team, 264 Rosendale Road, London SE24 9DL, but it is easy to contact MPs online.

[KidKruger]

The Govt is to blame for this.

They privatised railways, they offer the franchises, so they are responsible to ensure the service is delivered.

They have failed to ensure this. While Southern execs and 'consultants' line their pockets, the passenger gets a reduced service and the Govt says it's out of their hands, because some company is 'responsible' for providing the service. Pure negligence of successive, spineless, Govts.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I cannot understand how they're not in breach of contract /terms of the franchise. There seems zero accountability. Meanwhile they stuff their pockets with taxpayers and commuters money. It's criminal.

[Sue]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> The Govt is to blame for this.

> They privatised railways, they offer the

> franchises, so they are responsible to ensure the

> service is delivered.

> They have failed to ensure this. While Southern

> execs and 'consultants' line their pockets, the

> passenger gets a reduced service and the Govt says

> it's out of their hands, because some company is

> 'responsible' for providing the service. Pure

> negligence of successive, spineless, Govts.

Well privatisation is always going to put profit for the few above the needs of the many using the service, isn't it.

The old British Rail may have had its faults but nothing like what we've got now.

The only hope is if Labour get in, but what a terrible mess they will have to sort out in renationalising the rail system.

[Chief]

We all agree that East Dulwich / London Bridge service is a disgraceful non-service. The so-called temporary timetable is a cynical way for Southern to appear to be running a more reliable service. They are so pathetic, however, that they fail even to deliver this timetable; and, in particular to operate the handful of trains that are supposed to run between 06.30 and 09.00.

Despite all the complaints, public petitions, interventions from MPs, the Mayor and media coverage .... nothing happens! Why? The Government is 100% to blame for allowing Southern to continue this farce - they awarded a long-term franchise with pathetic, inadequate sanctions in place for non-performance. Therefore, Southern aren't suffering any significant financial pain for the misery they are imposing on us! Meanwhile, the Government sheds crocodile tears but finds the money to push ahead with the HS2 vanity project: ?90 billion 'down the drain' and counting! They should invest that money instead in much needed improvements to the existing UK rail system.

The last Rail Minister, Claire Perry, resigned after failing to tackle the current mess. BUT WHAT ACTION IS THE GOVERNMENT TAKING NOW TO END THE MISERY THAT IS SOUTHERN RAIL?!?!?!