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At Denmark Hill for 0830 this morning, in time for a train that usually gets to Blackfriars around 0850. Didn't get in until nearly 10am thanks to a succession of signalling/ broken-down train/ no-one-seems-to-know problems and then immense congestion from our line and the Sutton loop. Fun times.


This isn't typical, however. Most days I'm dealing with a predictable 5-10 minute delay.

Chief Wrote:

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BUT WHAT

> ACTION IS THE GOVERNMENT TAKING NOW TO END THE

> MISERY THAT IS SOUTHERN RAIL?!?!?!




As I posted above, Helen Hayes is trying to do something about it.


ETA: I realise she's not "the government" ......

I just don't understand. In the midst of all this shambles on Southern we, who are lucky enough to use West Dulwich, are having our services substantially improved with trains every 15 mins right up to midnight(now around 9 pm.). Not looking a Gift Horse, but what is going on??

granadaland Wrote:

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> Went to the station this morning out of necessity

> after avoiding it last week. Got on an 08.02 train

> to London Bridge. No busier than before the

> revised timetable.



Is this 8:02 train really running, though? There's nothing in the timetable to suggest so.


Does anyone here take this service through to London Bridge, or is there some confusion?

MarkE Wrote:

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> granadaland Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Went to the station this morning out of

> necessity

> > after avoiding it last week. Got on an 08.02

> train

> > to London Bridge. No busier than before the

> > revised timetable.

>

>

> Is this 8:02 train really running, though?

> There's nothing in the timetable to suggest so.

>

> Does anyone here take this service through to

> London Bridge, or is there some confusion?


The 8:02 does run but turns round at south Bermondsey. It's sparsely populated and has air con! However you need to change at Peckham rye or queens road for the overground and then again at Canada water for jubilee if you want get to canary wharf or back to London bridge and the west end.


The overcrowding at Canada water (single escalator down to jubilee) is getting really bad.

Lowlander Wrote:

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> Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

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> > Gilloc Wrote:

> >

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>

> > -----

> > > Where can you find copy of old train times to

> > > claim against does anyone know?

> >

> >

> > If you poke about on the national rail website

> it

> > has historic data for train journeys actual and

> > scheduled and a rate times. It doesn't go back

> > that far though.

>

>

> This site goes back three months

> http://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk



Altrnatively look a month or so in advance and it will show the old timetable, as they are only updating it with the reduced timetable a few weeks in advance at the moment.


"?165,479 a day owed by Southern was going unclaimed despite 124,000 passengers suffering delays of 30 minutes or more."


Please keep claiming.

Bic Basher Wrote:

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> cle Wrote:

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> -----

> > How would the 20 trains per hour work? All four

> > lines going from 4 to 5 each per hour?

>

> I thought the plan was to add another two trains

> per hour on the Clapham Junction and Crystal

> Palace branches, this would be 20 trains per hour

> between Dalston Junction and Surrey Quays.

>

> New Cross and West Croydon would be left with 4

> trains per hour each, Clapham Junction and Crystal

> Palace 6.

>

>

> Currently 16 trains per hour run to Dalston

> Junction of which 8 continue to Highbury and

> Islington via Forest Hill.



That makes sense, I wonder if they will be able to space them all evenly so its 00/10/20/30/40/50 past the hour etc, which would be great.


Assuming that stupid situation where a train arrives at Clapham and you see the Imperial Wharf-bound train pulling out (and vv if coming from that way) will be improved with this too. It almost seems deliberately malicious.

I tried to get a thameslink train from Denmark hill the other day. Signalling problems meant no trains. There was loads of confusion / little info and so people were hanging around whilst more and more people continued entering the station. It got dangerously overcrowded and became increasing difficult to get off the platform. It's only a matter of time until someone gets hurt due to this kind of terrible mismanagement. Meanwhile our taxes continue to be siphoned off into the pockets of Executives and shareholders.

The 08:30 to LB this morning was delayed first of all, and then cancelled at 08:45 - no announcement, no explanation given. As the next train wasn't until 09:30, everyone left the platform en masse and tried to get on a bus. Several went by without even allowing anyone on they were so full. I ended up walking up to Denmark Hill and taking a train to Blackfriars which was also very full.


What on earth is going to happen next week if the 5 day strike goes ahead?

a_m Wrote:

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> What on earth is going to happen next week if the

> 5 day strike goes ahead?


Or in September when people are back at work and children are back at school? The Southern website still says that the revised timetable will be in place "until train crew availability returns to normal" - which doesn't sound like it will be any time soon.

MarkE Wrote:

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> granadaland Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Went to the station this morning out of

> necessity

> > after avoiding it last week. Got on an 08.02

> train

> > to London Bridge. No busier than before the

> > revised timetable.

>

>

> Is this 8:02 train really running, though?

> There's nothing in the timetable to suggest so.

>

> Does anyone here take this service through to

> London Bridge, or is there some confusion?



I've been staying well away from the trains due to the revised timetable but the 1 day I did go a train arrived at 08.02 and went to London Bridge.

Someone at work said additional trains are sometimes diverted through East Dulwich.

It's a shambles but glad it's summer and I can use the bike instead.

18:08 London Bridge [LBG] East Dulwich [EDW] 18:23

18:51 London Bridge [LBG] East Dulwich [EDW] 19:03

19:11 London Bridge [LBG] East Dulwich [EDW] 19:23

19:40 London Bridge [LBG] East Dulwich [EDW] 19:53

20:10 London Bridge [LBG] East Dulwich [EDW] 20:23


This is what national Rail Enquiries says - is it wrong ?

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