kford Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just had a couple of Remain chaps at the door asking if we'd voted, which we have. They said that there's been a surprisingly low turnout in SE22, so if you haven't voted - get to the polling station now! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazzle Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm surprised - the queue this morning was longer than for elections Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1013536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 SouthwarkLeave 27.2% 35,209 votesRemain 72.8% 94,293 votesTurnout: 66.1% [source: not the Southwark website, but http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028][Nothing found for any smaller district level] Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1013704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Hi ford,The Remain campaign didn't run a full telling operation so what they said was a script to try and motivate you to get out and vote. Saying that the overall turnout across Southwark was low at 66% compared to Lambeth next door. Labour Lambeth were wholly campaigning for IN. Southwark Labour we were told by the Remain campaign were split down the middle and relatively by them little was done. In East Dulwich ward we've delivered circa 45,000 leaflets including GLA election ones which all had Remain stories in them and three round of specific IN leaflets. We've made 2,500 voter contacts in the last 6 weeks about the referendum with remain at 77%.What didn't help is the Remain campaign telling us they had agreed with Dulwich & West Norwood Labour party we were only wanted in Coldharbour ward! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1013785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 James Barber Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hi ford,> The Remain campaign didn't run a full telling> operation so what they said was a script to try> and motivate you to get out and vote. > Saying that the overall turnout across Southwark> was low at 66% compared to Lambeth next door.> Labour Lambeth were wholly campaigning for IN.> Southwark Labour we were told by the Remain> campaign were split down the middle and relatively> by them little was done. > In East Dulwich ward we've delivered circa 45,000> leaflets including GLA election ones which all had> Remain stories in them and three round of specific> IN leaflets. We've made 2,500 voter contacts in> the last 6 weeks about the referendum with remain> at 77%.> What didn't help is the Remain campaign telling us> they had agreed with Dulwich & West Norwood Labour> party we were only wanted in Coldharbour ward!This was after I told them that we'd all voted in, but your post makes sense! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1013826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilservant Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I ran into a canvasser at 8pm as I was on my way to vote who told me that he was worried about the turnoutit couldn't motivate to vote me more than I was already, but it got me to the polling station that little bit quickerpreviously we saw a few leafleters on NxRd market and Lordship Lane, had a few leaflets through our letterbox - on Crystal Palace Road - but no doorstep campaigning.would it have made a difference? perhaps... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1013890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerman Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This was a new post to me tonight? So only just seen your post kford. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds29 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 James Barber- this wasn't my experience. In the weeks prior to the Referendum I was bombarded by emails from the local party and Leadership to pass on the message and/or help in the Remain campaign as well as receiving a lot of pro Remain literature/posters, plus a visit from Jon Hartley. I didn't receive anything from Lib Dems Remain.There was quite a queue at the polling station too, mid morning, and a woman leaving told me it snaked round the block earlier, with people waiting for it to open from 6.30. Is this yet another Labour dig? It's becoming very tiresome... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgutsell Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I had plenty of remain stuff through my letter box. Well done stuff as well. I don't need to think that the local party was succesful, and I certainly don't think there is any mileage in mulling it over too much. Very Sad day for the UK (IMOP). I'm in the older bracket (60-70) and I seem to be one of the comparatively few older people that voted remain. It's upsetting because it's us older people who took part in, and pushed forward the whole post war, social revolution, that dumped the pre war Tory set up. Sad to day we have let them, and their attitudes and outlook, back in. We had the benefit of many decades of comparative peace and security, for which the EU was created and was succesful. I look at the burgeoning Right Wing, across Europe, and at home, and feel fearful and saddened for the present generation of kids. If the current divisiveness, fear of difference, reaction and blaming of minorities continues, you'd better get your kids ready for war. 1930's here we come again! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 For those interested the petition to try to re-run the referendum (probably ill-fated) is doing well - although (bar Scotland) those wanting a re-run map on almost exactly to those initially voting 'in' anyway.http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=131215 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebedee Tring Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'm in the same age bracket; however virtually everyone I know in that age bracket voted to remain. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The only time I've seen the IN team in ED was on DKH and outside Sainsbury's on the first weekend of the campaign, then nothing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalto Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I had lots of In and Out letters and leaflets through the door and many emails too. I am in the 60+ bracket and voted to remain. Many young people blame the older generation for the outcome but it seems that in areas with a high number of young people, the turn out was much lower than areas with older people. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwiser Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Surely we can expect Helen Hayes to vote against any Act of Parliament that would see us leave the EU. Doesn't she have to vote according to her constituents' view? Otherwise what's the point of a constituency MP? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Zebedee Tring Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> be one of the comparatively few older people that> voted remain >> > I'm in the same age bracket; however virtually> everyone I know in that age bracket voted to> remain.Same here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Doesn't she have to vote according to her constituents' view? Otherwise what's the point of a constituency MP?MPs are representatives, not delegates. They are placed by the electorate into Parliament so that they can exercise their best judgement (given any policies contained within the election mandate). If MPs had to follow their constituents' views slavishly we would still have the death penalty and homosexuality would still be illegal. In this case 75% of MPs in Parliament do not 'agree' with the (albeit slim) majority who voted to leave. Do they run with their constituents or with the electorate as a whole? I wouldn't want to be an MP in these circumstances.The point of having a constituency MP is to have someone in Parliament who can represent all their constituents' needs when it comes to what may best described as 'personal cases'. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwiser Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 All of the things you outlined are self-evident. But we were never asked to vote on capital punishment or the legality of homosexuality. We were asked specifically for our view on the EU, we spoke, we should be listened to. That's the difference. There are too many forces against the implementation of the referendum result, I simply don't see how it'll ever happen anyway. Cameron should never have called the referendum but he did the kindest thing he could have by resigning without seeing through Article 50. It's just that we all now have to endure a few years of turmoil before that inevitability dawns on everyone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1014690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 We now have multiple racist incidents reported in London (Baroness Warsi & others seem to be collecting data )Need to watch out. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1015270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexthecamel Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Sign the petition and write to Helen. It's still not too late.Article 50 has to be implemented by the government and there no stomach for it. helen.hayes.mp@parliament.ukhttps://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1015332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordship 516 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Whatever happens in the whole scenario, I really hope that this Boris Johnson clown never makes it to Prime Minister or any ministerial position as he has only distinguished himself by lying & cheating through all of his life with constant instances of gross disloyalty to his wives, his friends, his party, the electorate. This disgraceful oily Eton character must be stopped in his tracks once & for all or we will all suffer the consequences for many years to come - awful person..! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1015370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Southwark Labour were very much in the remain camp. We leafleted and spoke to residents in the run up to, and on Thursday itself. I spent most of Thursday talking to people in my ward (Peckham Rye). I did check turnout at the polling station on Peckham Rye East (Rye Hill TRA Hall). I do think turnout was high there. From responses we got from residents, the 73% remain in Camberwell and Peckham was as expected. Camberwell and Peckham turnout was 62% in the general election. Southwark's turnout figure for the referendum was 66%. Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1015742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 worldwiser Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> All of the things you outlined are self-evident.> But we were never asked to vote on capital> punishment or the legality of homosexuality. We> were asked specifically for our view on the EU, we> spoke, we should be listened to. That's the> difference. There are too many forces against the> implementation of the referendum result, I simply> don't see how it'll ever happen anyway. Cameron> should never have called the referendum but he did> the kindest thing he could have by resigning> without seeing through Article 50. It's just that> we all now have to endure a few years of turmoil> before that inevitability dawns on everyone.We also get the chance to air our opinions in elections; locally, UK Parliament and EU Parliament. There is a very good reason we don't get to vote about hanging. Think about your human rights. Then carry on from there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1016218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The petition is just over 4 million supporters. We just need to exceed 17 million... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1016245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Even if it did exceed 17 million why would that lead to there being a 2nd referendum? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1016260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 But how many countries have had referendums - then ignored them 'in the national interest'Seems to have happened 4 or 5 times.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-ignore-lisbon-treaty-nice-treaty-ireland-greece-france-netherlands-a7105261.htmlhttp://www.thelocal.fr/20160628/brexit-rethink-a-look-at-frances-2005-eu-referendum Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/111868-voting-low-turnout-in-se22-apparently/#findComment-1016303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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