Say NO to squirrel meat on the menu

[SeanMacGabhann]

which they are allowed

But I bet if I went on there espousing meat I would soon learn about the "tyranny of the vegetarian"

[expat]

of course viva is allowed an opinion but that is all it is 'an opinion' others disagree with them, For Example:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/may/11/recipes.foodanddrink

[expat]

Also not all consider foie gras cruel:

http://www.meateat.co.uk/is-fois-gras-cruel.html

[louisiana]

Alec John Moore Wrote:

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> Louisiana, here's my OP on this thread:

>

> A quick look at Viva's website shows that they are

> against eating meat (including fish) and dairy

> products since their production causes

> environmental destruction, damages human health

> and contributes to global hunger, as well as

> inflicting immense suffering on billions of

> animals across the world.

Since when has shooting and eating squirrels (see thread title and OP's original post) contributed to any of these things?

In what way does eating squirrel "damage human health"?

How does it "contribute to global hunger"?

And on "environmental destruction", are you aware of the volume of damage caused to the trees (including killing quite a few of them) in that self-same environment by the millions of squirrels in this country? Are you aware of the relationship between squirrel densities and habitat damage?

She's not coming from a

> vegan/vegetarian point of view but Felicity

> Lawrence's investigations into the global nature

> of industrialised food production - Not on the

> Label and Eat Your Heart Out - are quite salutary

> when it comes to thinking about what we eat.

I've read Lawrence for years, both in the press and her books. I don't see how "the global nature of industrialised food production" (aka the agri-industrial complex) has any connection with shooting and eating squirrels. Squirrels are not part of that chain. And the original post does not mention any aspect of industrialised food production.

I would argue that the small-scale and local hunting of squirrels for local consumption potentially provides some benefits, including providing some income (without a middle-man) to marginally-employed people in poorer rural areas, such as Cornwall, and assisting in the survival of small rural shops (a majorly endangered part of the economy)

What

> I find most interesting about this thread is what

> I think of as the tyranny of the meat eater.

Tyranny, sharks, massacre... It's easy to bandy emotionally loaded words and sweeping statements.

I would probably defend the right of low-income rural people to shoot squirrel (*not* in any way endangered) for their own consumption, or for sale to local shops and restaurants, which is what the title of this thread is all about. So in your books I'm party of the "tyranny of the meat eater". Yet you know nothing about my eating habits. Interesting.

I'm

> sure it's quite a common social phenomenon that

> when an alternative view is expressed then the

> majority demonstrate their intolerance of it,

> quickly dismiss the point of view and begin to

> turn the thread into their own self referential

> banter.

The majority are not demonstrating any intolerance of anything. A variety of people poked fun at a jumble of unconnected and emotionally manipulative sentences filched from another website. That is all. I can assure you there are vegetarians who also dismiss claptrap.

[edcam]

Vegetarians are extremely dull. I should know, I used to be one. Thank goodness I was saved by a good steak.

[SteveT]

I love squirrel meat though not as much as Panda burgers or snow leopard stew.

[Lawrence]

AJM- given your consumption of fish, seafood and other flesh, your promotion of Viva's soapbox smacks of hypocrisy.

[Jah Lush]

A pescatarian at best.

[woofmarkthedog]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> >

> which they are allowed

>

> But I bet if I went on there espousing meat I

> would soon learn about the "tyranny of the

> vegetarian"

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Maybe....

But, if only they could muster the energy

[louisiana]

Lawrence Wrote:

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> AJM- given your consumption of fish, seafood and

> other flesh, your promotion of Viva's soapbox

> smacks of hypocrisy.

Mmm, let us not start on the Great Prawn Massacre...

[Narnia]

edcam Wrote:

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> Vegetarians are extremely dull. I should know, I

> used to be one. Thank goodness I was saved by a

> good steak

Speak for yourself ed.I've been a vegetarian for 30 years and it has no influence on my being dull whatsoever. That remark is just vegism of the worst type you boring meat eater.

[notapoppet]

On a serious note.....do you realise that those lovely squirrels (furry rats) have the eggs and baby birds out of nests.......so those poor birds are surely "being killed using barbaric, but legal methods," by the very vermin you want to protect.....

I personally think it's quite handy to have a fresh larder about in case of famine.

Also good to eat your enemy.

[notapoppet]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> However so much of our meat and

> fish are produced so as to give us the cheapest

> prices possible. How do we ever change that?

Well, probably by buying the expensive stuff.....supply and demand.

It wouldn't work of course because people always need cheap but it could make a difference..

[edcam]

Narnia Wrote:

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> edcam Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Vegetarians are extremely dull. I should know,

> I

> > used to be one. Thank goodness I was saved by

> a

> > good steak

>

> Speak for yourself ed.I've been a vegetarian for

> 30 years and it has no influence on my being dull

> whatsoever. That remark is just vegism of the

> worst type you boring meat eater.

Many thanks Narnia. Your post very handily allows me to rest my case!

[flapjackdavey]

can't imagine them being much of a meal , though I'mk ptobably missing the point .