Keef Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 No, not just you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Surely education was a success - looking at the improvement in performance at Heber School for example. And The Golden Jubilee wing at Kings was during his tenure, to have 2 local examples. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Small fry examples created by local government Mick. You're missing the main point. Blair and Bush should be impeached on war crimes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Has anyone mentioned the nest feathering? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Good one Steveo. Let's face it him and his wife have been whoring themselves around the world ever since they left office. It's not like he needs the money from the sale of his memoirs All that guff about giving the proceeds away to the armed forces is a nice little bit of PR to alleviate his guilt and prop up his ego. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 JHC I cannot abide the man. Cannot believe I voted Labour and cheered when he got into Downing St. He is one of the most insincere politicians ever, in my view. How can anyone talk about him without mentioning Iraq and Afghanistan? What else? Hmmmm....where to start? Lords reform? He f*cked that up good and proper and its all stuffed full of "Tony's cronies" !!Hiding his earnings from the public eye, makes me sick. Economic policy? Yeah, right. Look at the divide between rich and poor after his governance. Narcissistic despicable tosser. No, I certainly don't want him back!*fucking Cool fucking Brittania* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 You're not standing alone Mick Mac, I'm just gathering my forces.Not that you need me to support you of course ;-)As I've exhorted Piersy for years, despite his weirdy religious knackerings history will judge TB appropriate for his era, his electorate and the brutal truth of the economic necessities inherent in the decline of Britain.He might have put it off for a week or so.To deny that is to fail to look in the loo after your number 2.God? No. Pragmatic? Exceptional. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Blair is looking for his eighth home at the mo - in Barbados. It will put his property empire at just under ?20m. The daughter Kathryn, a humble student has a maisonette worth just under a mill.Only God and his team of accountants know the extent of his 'earnings.'One of his last acts as PM was to get his expenses shredded. Clever boy, that showed prescience at least.When Jim Callaghan retired to a farm, I remember my old man asking, "How can he afford a farm?" A mere farm.The (socialist) joke's on us. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 To suggest he did it all to fill his wallet would imply a meaness of spirit for which there was no evidence.You can plausibly doubt his delivery, but I wouldn't doubt his convictions. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Remember, he always wanted to be a pop star. He's always been looking for the main chance.He could give back his PM's pension, golden handshake and paid for security. That would be a gesture. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Wouldn't be wise to give up his security. He'd be a sitting target for extremists wanting payback. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> You're not standing alone Mick Mac, I'm just> gathering my forces.> Any support is welcome. I understand the Iraq issue has people hopping mad. I personally did not agree with it, but I can put it to one side as his foreign policy and I think his UK policies were well meaning and education and health were successful, if expensive. The minimum wage was a big move forward and the economy, in my opinion, was successful - the crash was broadly not any worse than anywhere else and Labour recovered the banking crisis relatively well. As for the Foreign Policy - Jeez - you would think Britain had never done anything wrong in the world before now..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Actually Mick, to be fair I'm inclined to agree with you on the home front, it's the foreign policy that sticks in my craw. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I kind of have mixed feelings on TB. I agree with Mic and Jah in that his government did some very good things, minimum wage, reinvestment in education and the NHS and so on, but there are other things on the home front that didn't happen. For example, job creation in the private sector barely increased (and the high youth unemployment we now is solely New Labour's creation). UK industry and manufacturing continued to shrink. There were fundamental things that didn't grow in what was supposedly a booming economy, and other things, like the gap between rich and poor that shouldn't grow in a boom, but did. Having said that I do think the country was a fairer place under Blair than it was under Thatcher. On the international front, I'm afraid Blair's narcissism got the better of him for me. His 'success' (and I use that term loosely) in Kosovo I think deluded his ambition for Iraq and Afgahnistan. He will be remembered for the latter, not the former. And the God thing just always annoyed the hell out of me too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofmarkthedog Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Yes..The Catholic conversion always worries me ( how catholic is that ) I mean I'm a Catholic by default & un-joining is so hard once you're "in"Still, just think; he's signed up to a life time of guilt ( which is nice ) by choiceHe'll be amongst friends though, oh yes, it's top to bottom hypocrisy in there or God strike me down* lightning crackles, then fades away *W**F( as a foot note; I do observe various politicians wearing "pale papal purple" Please note, it doesn't fool anyone) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The 'beliefs' of both Tone and Cherie were something to behold.And the advisors: Carole Caplin, Sylvia Caplin and Peter Foster. Some judgement shown there, eh? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullied Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 TB or not TBThat is the CongestionConsumption be Done About It?Of Cough, of Cough,but it?ll take a Lung Lung (Coalition?)Time.And he'll outsell Shakespeare, but never Jeff Archer.Sullied, some more. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I see the oirish threw him with eggs. They also threw Axl Rose with bottles so he's in good company. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Both didnt seem to mind much Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Tony Blair's biggest crime was IraqBUT for scores of the left his biggest crime was winning the Labour Party 3 elections in a row Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Still they're back where they want to be now, fighting "Tory Cuts"...Maggie, Maggie, Maggie OUT OUT OUT Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 for someone SO keen to accuse a group of crass generalisations...... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Many many people OTHER than Labour voters think his crime was winning 3 elections in a row - and SOME people are shouting "Tory cuts too far" but again, not all of them are lefties. Some of them are able to argue, from a right-wing economic perspective that the cuts go too far. Others are equally able to argue that the cuts need not be QUITE so draconian. The debt was in an already fairly manageable state compared with other countries (and also in a country that flourished many a time despite paying of the Marshall Plan debt between the 40s and 2000s)But hey, it's not you on the front-line of cuts is it? Not in quite the same way as most of those affected will beBut, y'know, so long as you are happy making carictures of people on the left, let's not get too bothered- there is no other debate to be had apparently. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Last bit:the people you mock do exist, some of them exist on a simplistic plane JUST as you describe, and are mere oppositionistsBut they are relatively small in numbers and not worth the amount of time someone of your intelligence spends on them Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 er, "Scores"....a deliberate use rather than say "millions" or "most" or even "1000s"....anyway, biting..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13055-tony-blair/page/2/#findComment-357994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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