HerneHope Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hi EveryoneThe Herne Hill Velodrome is seriously under threat of closure. The campaign to save it has started with an invitation to a public meeting on 6th October. Please show your support on the website www.savethevelodrome.com or www.facebook.com/savethevelodrome. We are trying to get an idea of numbers for the open meeting (details below) - we need as many people as possible. Please could you email [email protected] if you're planning on joining us. Also please tell everyone - we need to show that people care about the facilities.More information below from the press release:?Save the Velodrome? Campaign launches with an open invitation to a public meeting.An alliance of residents and cyclists has been formed to save a former Olympicstadium from closure. The Herne Hill Velodrome is the oldest cycling track in thecountry and the home of the 1948 Olympic Cycling Championships. But now it facesclosure due to deterioration and lack of funding. There is no alternative track inLondon for the hundreds of children who ride and race there. In the past, that hasincluded Bradley Wiggins, the three-time Olympic gold medallist, who began hiscompetitive cycling career at Herne Hill.The Campaign is the brainchild of Hillary Peachey, a local resident whose childrenuse the site regularly. She says, ?It seems shameful that, with 2012 approaching, Londoncannot even sustain the facilities it has. That is why we are calling on Londoners as awhole to save this precious resource.?The Campaign kicks off with a public meeting at Dulwich College at 7.30 pm onWednesday 6th October. But Londoners are asked to register their support onwww.savethevelodrome.comCampaigners aim to secure the future of the site and make it a viable long-termfacility for all, including local residents and schools. The agenda for the public meeting is to:? raise awareness of the plight of the facilities;? hear suggestions for the future proposed regeneration;? review potential plans.To stay open, the Velodrome will need corporate and private funding, together withvolunteer support. The campaigners are hopeful of getting it. Details of public meeting:Wednesday 6th October7.30pm to 9.30pmGreat Hall, Dulwich CollegeDulwich Common, London SE21 7LDFor further information about the event/press enquiries:Hillary Peachey [email protected] Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I fully support this- natural cycling talent has been nurtured and developed at the velodrome- and it is a great base for all cycling activites- the youth mountain biking, cycle traiing, track biking- but so importantly for children/ youths. Local south London children cannot pop up to North London for the nearest track after school. We need to do everything we can to give young children access to sports,especially if their parents do not. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb&Custard Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/sep/21/herne-hill-1948-london-olympicsGood article. Good luck with the campaign. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandperson Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yeah! It's a fantastic facility that's been negleted shamefully in the last few years. Get behind this! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 anyone know how many children use this each week? and how many youths? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 easily 100 in the summer when light in evenings after school. a lot more on race nights Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 My understanding is that many hundreds of people use Herne Hill Velodrome every week despite it current poor facilities.Those facilities have crumbled for decades. When the GLC was closed responsibility for the HHVD lease passed to Southwark Council. HHVD is a semi regional facility and would ideally be funded, much as Crystal Palace Sports Centre is, by the Greater London Authority. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Saturday mornings too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 +10000000 to all the above.This is such a great facility it just can't be allowed to close.It has become an integral part of our family weekends. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlteenie Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 And the legenday Fausto Coppi raced there once. I shall be at the meeting. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eater81 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 All it effectively is is a big slab of concrete, how can that be difficult to maintain? Id imagine some scum property developer has their greedy eye on it, probably with a few local councillors in their pocket. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-363858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Because Eater, Dulwich Estates will not sign a lease longer than a rolling 2 years. Which means that VLC and local groups find it nigh on impossible to fundraise for any capital works, as the length of tenure is too short. The current surfacing is getting old, the covered stand is in a state of disrepair and can't be used any more, and the bleaker seats are getting old. The amount of voluntary hours that are put into the HH Velodrome to make sure that it's regularly open and accessible to both young children riding mountain bikes, or on track, to professionals using it on open meets is incredible. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisiana Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The Dulwich Estate would like to hand over the site to a property developer to develop a leisure centre, which would certainly help to fill the Estate's coffers. The property developer in question has been Citygrove Securities, which has a subsidiary Dulwich Leisure Ltd. You can see a portfolio of Citygrove Securities developments here:http://www.citygrove.com/portfolio.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 If you have never been to the velodrome, and have children who have not been there yet, i recommend you check it out now, and realise what their peers have had and your children will miss out on if something is not done.It it an exceptional facility that fosters safe cycling, away from cars, dogs and pedestrians. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilworker Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The citygrove deal has been in the pipeline for at least five years but nothing has ever come of it. DE (in 2005) gave the impression that any leisure development would be done with the needs of cycling in general and with the continued use of the track in particular. Is there evidence that this approach has been moved away from and that cycling will not have a place at the velodrome post-development? Local residents have a general interest in how any development is undertaken (in that they will not wish to see a busy leisure facility which is open 18 hrs a day with all the associated noise/disruption) . Cyclists have a particular interest in seeing continued use of the site for their sport. Both groups will have effective lobbiers - this site is nearly in the middle of Dulwich Village - a haven for self-interested property and planning lawyers. The prowess of the cycling lobby group has already been proven by its refusal to be fobbed off with a sub-standard substitute by the Olympic Development Agency when Eastway Stadium in Hackney was closed down to make way for the Olympic Stadia. Both groups together should be enough to scare off any rapacious property developers but we cannot be complacent. Join the campaign! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 eater81,Your suggestions of bribery and corruption amongst local councillors is extremely rude and unhelpful to helping HHVD.The land HHVD sits on is Metropolitan Open Land and legally very protected from development. Any decision about this land has to go to the main planning committee and if contrary to the principles of MOL the Secretary of State.The issue in my mind is the current accesses to the site are insufficient to keep the level of coming and going needed to make the site financially feasible and prosper. Unlocking cyclings potential for this site is about unlocking better access.Plus of course negotiating a long lease with the Dulwich Estate who in my mind have been patient landlords for over 100 years. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilworker Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Access (although currently not ideal) is a minor issue here. What is needed is DE's acknowledgement and agreement that this site will only be developed in a very modest commercial way and that its current status as a public facility will not be jeapordised. Sports like track cycling, mountain biking, football etc. (the first two of which currently go on here - the latter used to) simply do not return a financial profit which is why this existing facility must be jealously guarded. Any development wich is predicated upon DE achieving a substantail rental income on the site would be a disaster. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eater81 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Mr barber, i fully respect councillors like yourself who do their job for the good of the local community however you should know more than anyone that bribery and corruption are rife in the planning world, particularly with 100 million pound plus sites such as hhvd. This, combined with a conservative government and the general incompetence that characterises our great nation's planning departments means that citygrove will most likely have their wicked way and this unique, historic facility will be lost for ever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have always maintained that the Dulwich Estate have a ridiculously restrictive lease. It is not commercailly viable and any attempt to intensify use has been opposed by some local residents. anyone can make a planning application - even if they do not own it. Maybe an application for social housing on the site would encourage a better use? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratpack Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 How can we let somewhere like Herne Hill go?Watch Sky News's piece here: Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-364970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerneHope Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 RADIO 4 COVERAGE: PM SHOW TODAY - Listen here!Fantastic piece on the radio tonight on the Save the Velodrome campaign, including an interview with Dulwich Estate, the landowners, showing their support of the campaign. It's really worth listening to and hearing it all first hand. Click here. Go to minute 48 on the playing bar.Hope to see you at the open meeting tomorrow. Details on the first message on this chain. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-368812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'll be there tomorrow evening for sure! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-368885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i had to leave half way through the meeting tonight- can someone update me on what happened in the second part.??? There was such a positive feeling in the hall when I left. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13372-please-help-save-the-velodrome-its-a-facility-for-everyone/#findComment-369343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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