steveo Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 OK, this is off manor, but could we get someone in the council strung up by the goolies for allowing this to be demolished? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukesdenver Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Is that the one in Ladywell? A shame. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-364999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Eat your heart out - they demolished the beautiful Peckham Bus Garage with nary a hiccough. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Perhaps as some form of global ethical / architectural balancing the council could ensure that Peckham Rye station is restored to its former glory. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rememberwhen Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Nobody in Lewisham Council needs to be strung up.The Adhesive Specialities building was altered in the early 80s in the style of Art Deco.Underneath it was pure 60s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 The following is from the St Mary's conservation area supplementary planning document adopted by Lewisham Council on 12 December 2006.http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/615672DD-8DB1-466B-B7C7-6A5D68CAA9DE/0/StMarysSupplementaryPlanningDocument.pdf (PDF 319k)"Former Adhesives Specialities Ltd, 59 LadywellRoad. Locally listed. This building was built in the1930s as Neuk Laundry in a simple ?Moderne? styleby a local builder, Mr Howkins. It was altered in1988-9 by another local firm, Rainey and Rainey,which added metal windows and a clock andheightened the parapets, giving the building amore Art Deco style. This is a building type that isuncommon in the conservation area as well as acrossthe borough and it is a popular local landmark.It relates well to the scale of buildings in the areaand is a focal point at the beginning of the bridge.For these reasons, it makes a positive contributionto the character and appearance of the conservation.Any development on this site should therefore retainthe main body of the Art Deco building, althoughdevelopment may be possible to the remainder ofthe site."There's also an Excel document (53k) containing the ?related public consultation comments http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/EA81DC84-3252-4B64-9E01-17EA19F60744/0/Item8appendix429November2006.xls, which contains these responses by the council:"For a building to be listed [by English Heritage], it must be "of special architectural or historic interest" on a national scale. For a building to be included in a conservation area, it needs only to be considered to contribute to the character or appearance of the conservation area. In this case, the building is cherished, is locally listed, and makes a positive contribution to the character of the area; therefore it is considered that it does merit inclusion in conservation area." and"Outside conservation areas, demolition does not require planning permission, so at present the Adhesives building can be demolished without any consent. However, once in the conservation area, conservation area consent is needed for demolition. A planning application has been made for redevelopment of this building which will be determined under policy at the time of the decision. If the building is subsequently included in the conservation area, consent will then be needed for demolition." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 steveo, what possible benefit to mankind would the preservation of this old building have? How much would it cost to keep the rats dry? Who pays for it?Demolish and move on Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.Astaire Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 'Demolish and move on' is such a sad way to look at our classic british buildings. Any art deco building that survived ww2 should be treasured. That's why we have organisations such at British Heritage and the RIBA !! I bet they building an ugly block of flats or offices that only last a few years before crumbling. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 If you want to see the history of the planning applications, go to http://acolnet.lewisham.gov.uk/lewis-xslpagesdc/acolnetcgi.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.pgesearch, enter 59 Ladywell Road in the Location field, and Search. In fact there were repeated demolition refusals from 2003 to 2006, then permission granted, conditional on redevelopment, etc, in 2007, with further applications right up to this year. The latest ones are still stated to be pending. Whether this is a case of the records not being up-to-date, or of someone having jumped a gun, I've no idea. You're right about flats. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ok we are all a bit sentimental when it comes down to the destruction of familiar landmarks.Was the builing Practical for any new usage.Difficult to heat, Green Footprint Needs rewiring?, Needs re-plumbing?, Needs Asbestos removal?. Need to control what is put in it's place. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/13469-art-deco-factory-demolished/#findComment-365462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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