Admin and censorship - pls read last atticus threads

[KalamityKel]

Did you think to report those threads pearson? Did you? Thought not. Seriously if you have problems with particular threads/comments there is a "report this message" USE IT.

*sighs*

[Pearson]

@KalamityKel Haha, you've completely miss read that post.

I was being slightly sarcastic. I agree with Atticus.

*sighs*

[KalamityKel]

Was was referring to your comment about the several other posts of a similar nature *rolls eyes*... ah never mind I appreciate ur perfect :p

[Pearson]

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[SeanMacGabhann]

"

Sean, beautifully brutal but inconcise.

Have you decided that you don't quite care for my use of the word censorship? Perhaps then, that was a tad harsh.

Or, were you simply offended that I dared to speak out against EDF Admin fav 'The Actress'?

If the latter, then a consice explanation as to why 'The Actress' (in all its praising glory)thread was allowed 'lounge' status for weeks, as opposed to my critique of said pub, which, survived for less than a pitiful two hours, is justified.

Politely awaiting your defensive (and as read before) aggresive return.

"

Where to begin?

Your use of censorship wasn't a "tad harsh" - it's completely, factually incorrect

How was I offended? Why even use that word? You solicited feedback, I offered some, It is you who seems put out

Asking why some posts stay in the Lounge for a sustained period whilst others are moved quicker seems a fair question to me

That isn't what you did however - you still seek some martyrdome status where you are being ?censored? and your posts don't ?survive? and when you posts are moved to the wrong place you don't post in the Ask Admin section but start a whole new thread in another wrong section, making it all about YOU. It seems a bit over the top don?t you think?

So why do some posts get moved more quickly than others? A bunch of reasons, among them:

1) There isn't a huge team moderating this place and stuff gets missed - feel free, as KK says, to use the Report this thread button

2) A thread can appear be about one thing but had a more general interest than the business in hand. I think Admin posted quite a long reason a few pages back in the original Actress thread as to why he was leaving it there for the time being. You might disagree but it?s fair to say that all business threads get moved as soon as they are seen to the correct area. You might not notice it because you didn?t start the thread but it happens

As for the examples pearson mentions ? JD Wetherspoon isn?t an ED business ? there is a discussion about the possibility of them moving to the area which is wider topic. If the were to open and started posting offers and announcements then they too would be moved.

Sainsbury?s ? I have missed any threads about Sainsbury?s business. I have seen a couple about rats in a park which involve the possible oversight of Sainsbo?s as a caretaker but that really isn?t the business they are in and the issue remains rats in a local park

[SeanMacGabhann]

Oh and multiple threads about the same topic is a perennial pain in the proverbial. You can?t stop ALL of them, and those that you make people complain. But many do get stopped, quite rightly, as the place would be overrun and unreadable if they weren?t

But again it?s probably more practical/time-constraint reasons than discrimination against any posters as to which do and don?t get shut for being repeat threads

The ?old? Actress thread is very much live and has been on the first page consistently, so is still the goto thread. If it had been dormant and on page 3 or 4 of the business section it?s possible that the newer thread would stand a better chance of ?surviving?

[mockney piers]

quite.

Plus innappropriate shouts of 'help help I'm being oppressed' are more, rather than than less, likely to get the moderators dealing with ones posts.

[SeanMacGabhann]

this thread for example

It might end up getting moved to the business section but at the moment it's juuuust about more pertinent to "ED as an area and the vibe it offers" rather than about specific businesses. But only just

I'm pretty sure when it gets moved snorky/huncamunca won't start several threads asking whyohwhy etc. Although he might now

[jollybaby]

Shouldn't this be moved to about the forum!!

[annaj]

Atticus, I have done as you asked and read this and the other threads and I have decided.

You are being unreasonable. And also a bit petulant.

As others have already said, you're not being censored or oppressed, to say you are is hyperbolic and trivialises those important words. Your threads were moved and locked, because they were duplicates and in the wrong place; it was housekeeping not censorship.

There is no conspiracy or favouritism towards the Actress, many of the posts on the original, and still busy, thread are criticisms.

You choose to post on a forum that is run by Admin and his team in their own time. It's Admin's forum and his rules. You broke them and so were moderated. There is nothing mysterious or sinister about that, it's very very simple.

[mockney piers]

"Shouldn't this be moved to about the forum!!"

As it goes, one thread already has been; strictly speaking this is duplication and is asking to be locked, but as it's also quite funny I suspect it may survive as lounge material.

* edited for for harshness of judgement *

Edited one time(s) at 13:31 O'Clock

[Atticus]

'Matryrdome', 'petulance' 'menatl'. Great, I've said that the use of the word 'censorship' was harsh, I think some of your language is to.

Anyway, I know my place (there's that martyr in me again).

Keep up the great work though, this forum is a great asset to the area and long may it continue!

[Keef]

I have to say that I disagree about using the old Actress thread. If I wanted to know what time it closed on a friday, or what beer they did, I'd ask on the old thread. However, I think this was a more specific issue, that was turning in to a discussion about footy in pubs. In my opinion, a title change would have been appropriate.

Agree that words like censorship are just plain wrong here, but also find some responses here to be rather patronising to the OP.

[Dorothy]

Heh heh. Atticus - I made a point about the bizarre special treatment afforded to The Actress by this forum on the original long-running thread this morning, before seeing this one. I agree with you fwiw.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Keef you say patronising, but what else to do with someone who spent so much time starting new threads screaming blue murder

I agree the thread in question could have been retitled and a discussion about pubs that show football without sound would be useful but it did seem to be specifically about the Actress and despite what you say, the current Actress thread covers everything from lighting, glasses to food drink and everything in between

I also spent what I thought a fair bit of time explaining why some threads get dealt with one way and others another but still we hear comments like Dorothy?s

?bizarre special treatment afforded to The Actress?

Which I can?t understand on any level

Remember ? no post was removed, just moved to the relevant section. I don?t see any need for any outcry (and by outcry I mean the 3 threads Atticus started claiming he was being censored and removed with plenty of people weighing in to support it) The posts are there. Negative or positive about the Actress. Noone is stopping anyone from reading or posting them

[Atticus]

After a good time spent in refection, I realise the extra posts were a little over the top, to say the least. I was at the time just quite annoyed about the original issue I had posted about ie, no audio on the footy

Sean, take your points ... in all honesty I'm not very au fait with debating on this forum and in future would take a different approach.

I will however back Keef's observation that some posts were patronising, notably the one by Mockney Piers suggesting 'chips on shoulders'. Simply untrue and a personal attack.

Like I've said previously, keep up the good work.

[mockney piers]

Accusation withdrawn. Apologies proffered and accepted.

Happy happy happy, everybody happy.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Marvellous. See you at the Phoenix on the 12th November then atticus, where you get a free beverage of your choice

[Atticus]

Kind offer - thanks.